Hi richard,

Many thanks for this I'll give it a go, presume this will work on my SE 2.


Gary

On 23/12/2020 23:23, Richard Turner wrote:
Be sure you do not have the screen curtain on.

Richard

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On Dec 23, 2020, at 3:20 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:

Yes, put Screen Recording in the Control Center in Settings, if it is not 
already there.
Bring up the Control Center and find Screen recording and flick up with one 
finger to more and double tap.
This is if you want to also record with the microphone maybe your commentary of 
what is different?
Anyway, if you flick right to use Microphone and double tap then flick back 
left to start recording you will not only get VoiceOver speech, but you can 
also record your comments.
Of course, once you start the recording you will want to go back to your app so 
there will be some excess stuff in the recording.
Once you are done, there will be an icon in the upper left to get back to the 
screen recording where you can stop it.
Screen recordings show up in photos as a video.
You should  then be able to share that with the developers.

HTH,


Richard, in the U.S.

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From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
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Subject: Screen shots and providing evidence of inaccessability to software 
developers?

Hi all,

An app I use to control my music server has over the last year become 
increasingly inaccessable.  For example the labels associated with buttons seem 
to have collapsed to a single letter (and not necessarily the first letter of 
the word label).

Am I correct in thinking that if I take a screen shot it will only show exactly 
what a sighted person would see and not what Voiceover is speaking?

If so does anyone know a way of taking a screen shot or something which will enable a 
software developer to "see" what Voiceover is seeing/producing to the blind 
user.

Is there perhaps some diagnostic tool that could be used to get a dump of 
voiceovers speech buffer?

Whilst I  could or may have to, write down each issue and explain in detail to 
the software developer what is happening a dump of Voiceovers output would be a 
far more elegant and direct diagnostic tool.

Thanks in anticipation


Gary

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