It is really a feature of iOS rather than an app.
It takes a video screen shot so you can show someone, a developer, Apple 
Support, etc., what is happening when using VoiceOver in a given situation.
I do not know what the limit of items on the control center, but perhaps you 
have to move one out of the control center to insert screen recording.
Might be a good time to call Apple accessibility....



Richard, in the U.S.

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-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 8:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen shots and providing evidence of inaccessability to software 
developers?

Hi all I found the instructions to incert screen recording but when I dubble 
tapped on it it didn't seem to do aanything but sit there. I am using a I phone 
8 running the latest vesion of ios. Can some one tell me what this app does? 
Many thanks. From Mich.

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Turner
Sent: December 24, 2020 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen shots and providing evidence of inaccessability to software 
developers?

Anthony,
Open Settings, and flick right passed General to Control Center and double tap.
ON this screen you will find all the things that are already in the Control 
Center under the heading, Included Controls.
Turn the rotor to headings and flick down, to the More Controls Heading.
Flick right with one finger until you hear Insert Screen Recording, and double 
tap.

After that you can access screen recording by bringing up the control center 
and following the previous instructions.

You will notice that there is a Reorder button next to the things on the 
control center.
If you do a double tap and hold and keep your finger on a reorder button then 
after you hear the tones, you can slide that button up or down in the list.
That way you can rearrange the buttons on the control center to put the things 
you use the most in whatever order you like.
HTH,
Richard, in the U.S.

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airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
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Subject: RE: Screen shots and providing evidence of inaccessability to software 
developers?

Hi Richard 

Can you please explain to me how to put the scree recorder to the control 
centre? 
Thanks in advance 

Anthony  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 24 December 2020 15:04
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen shots and providing evidence of inaccessability to software 
developers?

Yes Gary, 
It will show them what Apple Accessibility sees when they do a screen share 
with you, so long as the screen curtain is off, they will see the screen. 
As I understand it, it is like they are looking over your shoulder at the 
screen. 
You could do a shoret test and send it to a friend to make sure it is doing 
what you need. 
HTH,

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Dec 24, 2020, at 4:41 AM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> Just to be clear, are you saying that screen recording will record the image 
> of the screen as seen by a sighted person along with voiceover output and my 
> commentary if I enable the mic?
> 
> 
> The app is fairly large and complex with multiple levels and options within 
> each screen. If screen recording works as above then I may as well point out 
> all the other inaccessable features which I haven'nt bothered with in the app 
> before because I thought it would be too complicated to explain to the 
> developer.
> 
> 
> thanks
> 
> Gary
> 
> xOn 23/12/2020 23:23, Richard Turner wrote:
>> Be sure you do not have the screen curtain on.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>> 
>>>> On Dec 23, 2020, at 3:20 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, put Screen Recording in the Control Center in Settings, if it is not 
>>> already there.
>>> Bring up the Control Center and find Screen recording and flick up with one 
>>> finger to more and double tap.
>>> This is if you want to also record with the microphone maybe your 
>>> commentary of what is different?
>>> Anyway, if you flick right to use Microphone and double tap then flick back 
>>> left to start recording you will not only get VoiceOver speech, but you can 
>>> also record your comments.
>>> Of course, once you start the recording you will want to go back to your 
>>> app so there will be some excess stuff in the recording.
>>> Once you are done, there will be an icon in the upper left to get back to 
>>> the screen recording where you can stop it.
>>> Screen recordings show up in photos as a video.
>>> You should  then be able to share that with the developers.
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, in the U.S.
>>> 
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>>> when I was young."
>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
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>>> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 3:10 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Screen shots and providing evidence of inaccessability to software 
>>> developers?
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> An app I use to control my music server has over the last year become 
>>> increasingly inaccessable.  For example the labels associated with buttons 
>>> seem to have collapsed to a single letter (and not necessarily the first 
>>> letter of the word label).
>>> 
>>> Am I correct in thinking that if I take a screen shot it will only show 
>>> exactly what a sighted person would see and not what Voiceover is speaking?
>>> 
>>> If so does anyone know a way of taking a screen shot or something which 
>>> will enable a software developer to "see" what Voiceover is 
>>> seeing/producing to the blind user.
>>> 
>>> Is there perhaps some diagnostic tool that could be used to get a dump of 
>>> voiceovers speech buffer?
>>> 
>>> Whilst I  could or may have to, write down each issue and explain in detail 
>>> to the software developer what is happening a dump of Voiceovers output 
>>> would be a far more elegant and direct diagnostic tool.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in anticipation
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gary
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