Devin, I too have escaped the choke hold of Apple. My iPhone is used to play games that android does not have. I also get to continue using an accessible keyboard like Flick Type.š And before I'm told I'm no longer welcome in the group, I still update my phone & participate in the public beta program. & use my iPad for my creative writing course.
Donna Donna > > ļ»æ > So, I can no longer participate in discussion just because I, who have been > using Apple devices for years, no longer use mine regularly and promote the > fact that Android is a viable alternative when huge issues of Apple's control > pops up? I'm glad you're not a moderator. > Devin Prater > r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com > gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/ > > > >> On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 12:21 PM Richard Turner >> <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: >> I wrote him as well. I primarily use MBraille when I don't have a keybaord >> available. >> I do not mean to minimize the impact on dedicated FlickType users; and I >> wonder if somehow this issue between FlickType and the App Store/Apple was >> brought to mainstream media's attention if something more would be >> accomplished. >> I was partly reacting to someone who has already jumped ship to Android whom >> I hope stops contributing to Apple discussions if he is no longer going to >> use Apple products. >> Personally, I can braille faster than I could use FlickType, but I fully >> understand the impact it would make on me if MBraille had to go away because >> of some unknown issue with Apple, and I would have the same reaction you and >> others are having to FlickType's removal. >> But, I have bluetooth keyboards and braille displays to use if MBraille >> faced the same fate; so I still say, it is not the end of the world; but a >> damnable inconvenience, which probably should not have to happen. >> >> >> >> Richard >> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." >> -- Jane Wagner >> >> >> >> >> >> website: www.turner42.com >> >> >>> On Aug 23, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> ļ»æ >>> Richard, >>> >>> >>> >>> While I agree that the loss of FlickType is not the end of the world, itās >>> going to dramatically impact how I use my iPhone. I much prefer typing my >>> own content as opposed to dictating it and FlickType has made it very easy >>> to compose text messages and emails with my iPhoneās screen fairly quickly >>> without the need for another keyboard. >>> >>> >>> >>> Just out of curiosity, how much do you use FlickType for input on your >>> iDevice? >>> >>> >>> >>> I will certainly adapt to the loss of FlickType but my speed and accuracy >>> of input is going to take a big hit. I did write an email to Phil Schiller >>> expressing my concerns but realistically, Iām not holding my breath that it >>> will make any difference. I do believe that users are responsible for >>> providing feedback when an appās accessibility is broken or an accessible >>> app is totally withdrawn as in this case due to some dispute with the App >>> Store. Iāll continually encourage those in our community to provide this >>> feedback because sometimes, the squeaky wheel does get the grease. >>> >>> >>> >>> Alan Lemly >>> >>> >>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>> Richard Turner >>> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 10:06 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType >>> >>> >>> >>> I Very much doubt the millions of customers it would take to switch to the >>> āsomewhat dark side, grinā will do so, which is what it would take to >>> impact Appleās wallet. A few people switching to Android certainly wonāt. >>> >>> >>> >>> I also doubt Flicktype will see the light of day again, which is too bad, >>> but not the end of the world. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> Software means never having to say you're finished >>> >>> >>> Web site: www.turner42.com >>> >>> >>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>> Devin Prater >>> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 7:38 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Lobbying Apple about FlickType >>> >>> >>> >>> I voted with my wallet and went with Android. Sure, it's got its rough >>> edges, but at least I control what is on my phone, what can go on my phone, >>> what app stores are on my phone, and can even play the video games I'm good >>> at, on my phone. Its not perfect as I said, but I have control, and Apple, >>> or Google for that matter, cannot take it away. I think the only way Apple >>> will change so drastically is if they notice a decrease in money. Their App >>> Store is very dear to them as a money-making ability, so I doubt a few >>> people complaining about a specialized app will move them. After all, >>> thousands of people complaining about CSAM hasn't, and thousands >>> complaining about fortnight hasn't either. If it does, though, that's >>> great. But if not, prepare to vote with your money. 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