Or maybe we just like to have options: the option to use an open platform when Apple gets to be too smothering. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/
On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 2:29 PM CrazyEyez <bmkreco...@gmail.com> wrote: > Can't be that much of a choke hold if you come back to be abused by the > apple products to play your beloved games. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 24, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@outlook.com> > wrote: > > > > I hear you Sieghard! I tend to avoid such inflammatory words and phrases > myself because I want people to read the content of my message and not get > caught up in any colorful choice of words. I also realize that some people > make a very informed decision on what device to use, and I don’t want to > cast any dispersion on anyone just because they have different priorities > and make a choice I wouldn’t have made. I’m not perfect, but I try to treat > everyone and the decisions they’ve made with respect. I also try to talk in > examples rather than making blanket statements. > > > > -- > > Christopher (AKA CJ) > > Chaltain at Outlook > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of > *Sieghard Weitzel > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 24, 2021 11:43 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType > > > > Why do people have to be so intense and use terms like "choke hold" It's > very simple, if you don't like the way Apple does things use an Android > phone, but what's the point in these words or terms which are utterly > subjective. I have used an iPhone since 2009 and not once have I felt > "choked", if you have then I'm glad you now have an Android phone which > gives you all the freedom to do exactly what you want although I am sure > that even the grat platform of the Android OS has at least one or two > drawbacks or maybe it is entirely perfect by now. Whatever works for the > user is what you should use. > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of > *Donna Casteen > *Sent:* August 23, 2021 6:47 PM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Lobbying Apple about FlickType > > > > Devin, I too have escaped the choke hold of Apple. My iPhone is used to > play games that android does not have. I also get to continue using an > accessible keyboard like Flick Type.😌 And before I'm told I'm no longer > welcome in the group, I still update my phone & participate in the public > beta program. & use my iPad for my creative writing course. > > > > Donna > > > > > > Donna > > > > > > So, I can no longer participate in discussion just because I, who have > been using Apple devices for years, no longer use mine regularly and > promote the fact that Android is a viable alternative when huge issues of > Apple's control pops up? I'm glad you're not a moderator. > > Devin Prater > > r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com > > gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/ > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 12:21 PM Richard Turner < > richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: > > I wrote him as well. I primarily use MBraille when I don't have a > keybaord available. > > I do not mean to minimize the impact on dedicated FlickType users; and I > wonder if somehow this issue between FlickType and the App Store/Apple was > brought to mainstream media's attention if something more would be > accomplished. > > I was partly reacting to someone who has already jumped ship to Android > whom I hope stops contributing to Apple discussions if he is no longer > going to use Apple products. > > Personally, I can braille faster than I could use FlickType, but I fully > understand the impact it would make on me if MBraille had to go away > because of some unknown issue with Apple, and I would have the same > reaction you and others are having to FlickType's removal. > > But, I have bluetooth keyboards and braille displays to use if MBraille > faced the same fate; so I still say, it is not the end of the world; but a > damnable inconvenience, which probably should not have to happen. > > > > > > > > Richard > > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with > it." -- Jane Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > website: www.turner42.com > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C8959c37cfbe74658674c08d9671e409a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637654201905367640%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=sVVfzK64Ne%2BYvqOn1mVh67xIvJQysXSDjX9n358RBqU%3D&reserved=0> > > > > > > On Aug 23, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Richard, > > > > While I agree that the loss of FlickType is not the end of the world, it’s > going to dramatically impact how I use my iPhone. I much prefer typing my > own content as opposed to dictating it and FlickType has made it very easy > to compose text messages and emails with my iPhone’s screen fairly quickly > without the need for another keyboard. > > > > Just out of curiosity, how much do you use FlickType for input on your > iDevice? > > > > I will certainly adapt to the loss of FlickType but my speed and accuracy > of input is going to take a big hit. I did write an email to Phil Schiller > expressing my concerns but realistically, I’m not holding my breath that it > will make any difference. I do believe that users are responsible for > providing feedback when an app’s accessibility is broken or an accessible > app is totally withdrawn as in this case due to some dispute with the App > Store. I’ll continually encourage those in our community to provide this > feedback because sometimes, the squeaky wheel does get the grease. > > > > Alan Lemly > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of > *Richard Turner > *Sent:* Monday, August 23, 2021 10:06 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: Lobbying Apple about FlickType > > > > I Very much doubt the millions of customers it would take to switch to > the “somewhat dark side, grin” will do so, which is what it would take to > impact Apple’s wallet. A few people switching to Android certainly won’t. > > > > I also doubt Flicktype will see the light of day again, which is too bad, > but not the end of the world. > > > > > > > > Richard > > Software means never having to say you're finished > > > > Web site: www.turner42.com > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C8959c37cfbe74658674c08d9671e409a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637654201905377597%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=3G77mi6IH4br3dY%2FKR7%2Fvk3av0h8aE8UuKuKboG7ax8%3D&reserved=0> > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of > *Devin Prater > *Sent:* Monday, August 23, 2021 7:38 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Lobbying Apple about FlickType > > > > I voted with my wallet and went with Android. Sure, it's got its rough > edges, but at least I control what is on my phone, what can go on my phone, > what app stores are on my phone, and can even play the video games I'm good > at, on my phone. Its not perfect as I said, but I have control, and Apple, > or Google for that matter, cannot take it away. I think the only way Apple > will change so drastically is if they notice a decrease in money. Their App > Store is very dear to them as a money-making ability, so I doubt a few > people complaining about a specialized app will move them. After all, > thousands of people complaining about CSAM hasn't, and thousands > complaining about fortnight hasn't either. If it does, though, that's > great. But if not, prepare to vote with your money. Android isn't as dark a > side as you think. :) > > Devin Prater > > r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com > > gemini://tilde.pink/~devinprater/ > > > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 12:35 AM 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone < > viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Jonathan Mosen is urging as many of us as possible to email Apple’s Phil > Schiller schil...@apple.com to urge him to intervene personally to sort > out the problems leading to the developer of FlickType withdrawing his app > after his updates were rejected for mystifying reasons. > Regards > Harry > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. 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