Exactly, now that I am switching back to Telus here in Canada which offers eSIM 
and where I can finally also add my cellular Apple Watch for an extra $10 so it 
can work more independently I want to switch to eSIM so that when my wife and I 
go back to the Philippines where she is from it is way easier to just buy a 
prepaid physical SIM there and stick it into the empty tray. This way my 
Canadian number still works, but I can use the local service for most things.
I could, if I wanted to also get another physical SIM here, even just one 
without data and have a separate mobile business phone number, but I won't do 
that because now that I am using a VoIP phone system at work it is not required 
as I can get any calls made to my business number on my iPhone and I can choose 
to answer them after hours or not and I can call out via the app from my VoIP 
service which to the person I am calling appears like I am calling from my 
business number.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: November 14, 2021 6:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

Hi Sieghard

That’s interesting that you scan a qr code to activate the e sim,

But does that then allow you to put a standard sim in to the tray and utilize 2 
services?


The e sim usage isn’t something we have available to us in NZ
With 2 of our main providers,

Another one does use it but doesn’t’ advertise the fact.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 2:21 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new iphone 13 pro max issues

I am just in the process of switching to a new provider and I will be switching 
from a physical SIM to an eSim. I asked them how this would work and they told 
me that because I was switching to a different provider they would send me a 
new physical SIM and I would first insert that and then my cell number would be 
transferred to them. After that and he said I should give it a few days I can 
then activate the eSIM which he said will be done by scanning a QR code they 
also send me. I asked him what I would have to do if I wanted to get a new 
phone down the road and was told that at that point they would once again send 
me a QR code which I would scan on the new phone and that would activate the 
eSIM.
I did not know you can transfer an eSIM to a new phone the way you described. 
Not saying it can't be done, but that is different from what I was told by my 
carrier here in Canada..

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com<mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>
Sent: November 14, 2021 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>; 
macvisionar...@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: new iphone 13 pro max issues

Well… Only I would come up with this one.
I transferred my 8Plus to  my 13 pro max including e-sim. I had to do it via 
iCloud. Verified the cell service worked fine. Well the icloud restoration got 
hosed.. so I stopped the restoration. Signed out of icloud and reset phone back 
to factory default. I connected to Wifi and Bluetooth. Managed to transfer data 
from 1 phone to the other phone. Problem is no cell service on either device. 6 
AT&T tech support reps cannot figure it out. I have no phone at all. Ugg.
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