Apple does have good reasons to ditch the home button, and I wouldn't want to 
see it come back, but they shouldn't wear out in the time someone will be using 
it and getting rid of them doesn't make it significantly easier to make the 
phone more water proof. I don't think Apple upgraded the water proof rating of 
their phones when they ditched the home button and there are plenty of other 
phones who have a home button and are more water proof than the iPhone. The 
iPhone still has three other buttons on it, a mute switcht, a Lightning port, a 
sim tray  and speaker grills. I suspect it had more to do with aesthetics and 
manufacturing costs.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 3:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

Yes it does.


On Aug 13, 2022, at 7:29 AM, 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

I thought that the second generation had the physical home button. Maybe not? I 
could be wrong about that.
Kind regards,
Crayton Benner


On Aug 13, 2022, at 07:17, 
bentleyj1...@gmail.com<mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com> wrote:

The home button on the SE second and third generation can't wear out or allow 
water in to the phone.  They are not mechanical buttons.  No moving parts.

Regards,

James B

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<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Michael Feir
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 5:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iPhone SE.

Apple had some good reasons for abandonning the home button. They ware out over 
time. Also, not having a home button improves water resistance. One way to feel 
the results of the gestures which replace the home button for VoiceOver usders 
is to go into VoiceOver audio settings and set the haptics to a higher percent. 
This makes those indicator bumps easier to feel. Personally, even without 
taking that step, I've never had a problem feeling the bumps even when I can't 
hear the sounds. I don't miss the home button at all.

On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 2:25 AM Curtis Delzer 
<cur...@calweb.com<mailto:cur...@calweb.com>> wrote:
I hear it has a home button, my friend will get his tomorrow, should I
tell him it handles finger prints like the older models do? In many ways
I still wish I had a home button. I believe it a serious error of Apple
not to include home buttons in their later models of the iPhone. I
contend it makes it harder to use, not easier; every try and hear that
little sound or feel it while any background noise is happening? Or, can
you enter the home button via voice command instead of that back press
work around action?

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