Re: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot

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Vicky What an ordeal. Clever you, but not the sort of thing you have the desire to be spending that much time doing right? This thing about voice over not working until you’ve unlocked. Your phone is totally unacceptable. I just turned mine off altogether. I can’t be in years past I never seem to get my thumbprint down right, so I didn’t even bother this time either. And forget about facial recognition for now. finding that place to tell the phone to lock after three minutes or one minute or turn it off altogether can be a bit of a job too.  Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2022, at 11:21 PM, Vicky Collins <vcollins5...@gmail.com> wrote:  I had this same thing happen with both my 12 Mini and 13 Mini Friday night, but I haven’t had the problem with either phone since. I’m using the default Samantha voice, and I had no problems when upgrading to iOS 16.   With the 13 Mini, I had turned the phone off to get rid of that one unread message badge I often get now when I receive a text message on one of my phones and delete it right after reading. Since I have text message forwarding set up on both of my phones, the phone on which I don’t read the text shows that badge until I either recover the message I have deleted on the other phone or until I reboot that phone on which I haven’t read the message.   Anyway, after turning that iPhone 13 Mini back on, VoiceOver did not speak or make any sounds, and nothing I did from trying to talk to Siri, using headphones, turning up the volume button, doing the triple click of the side button or force restarting the phone would bring back the speech. I finally got my 12 Mini to read the screen with Seeing AI, and after pressing the side button to get it where it needed to be, it finally read the slide to unlock or whatever it says, and I lucked into getting the phone into the correct position with the slide I did, and then I miraculously entered the passcode correctly and VoiceOver started talking once again. Before getting to this point, though, I had had enough unsuccessful attempts at entering that passcode to where I had to wait the fifteen minutes before I got the opportunity that actually let me unlock the phone and restore VoiceOver.   As for my 12 Mini, while I had turned it off for the same reason as the 13 Mini, meaning another text message badge I wanted to get rid of as I had permanently deleted a message on the 13 Mini and thus couldn’t recover it on the 12 Mini to get rid of that badge, I wasn’t nearly as fortunate with recovering VoiceOver. For, even though I practiced positioning my fingers on the 13 Mini so I would be ready when I could get the 12 Mini to that unlock position, I somehow managed to enter the incorrect passcode every time, figuring this since VoiceOver never did start talking.   I let this go on for my opportunity to enter the passcode after an hour, but when that attempt failed and the screen read that my 12 Mini would now be disabled for three hours, I decided to try other things. I couldn’t connect the phone to the computer and try to see if I could bring up the accessibility settings in iTunes because I had turned off the USB accessories setting that would’ve let USB accessories connect after the phone had been locked for an hour. I couldn’t turn the phone off as I normally do by pressing the volume up, then the volume down, and then pressing the side button for a second or two, and I was afraid to try to turn the phone off with holding the side button and one of the volume buttons as I didn’t want to risk calling 911 by mistake, so I wasn’t able to put the 12 Mini in recovery mode either. Oh, although VoiceOver didn’t work, I was able to call either phone when VoiceOver wasn’t working and each would ring even though there was no speech except me hearing myself when I would occasionally get that swipe just right and I managed to get a call connected.   Thus, what I wound up doing in the end, as I certainly wasn’t going to knock on a neighbor’s door late at night, was that I went into the Find My app on my 13 Mini, erased the iPhone 12 Mini, and then set up the 12 Mini again restoring it from the iCloud backup I had thankfully done the day before.   Sent from Mail for Windows   From: Arnold Schmidt Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 9:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Another Phone That Won't Talk After Reboot   I have a friend, who has a 13 Pro, that experienced the same issue as described earlier. He turned it off overnight, and this morning, VoiceOver would not respond when he turned it on. Neither turning up the volume, nor doing the three-finger double tap would fix it. He said the clicks he heard when touching the screen were not the clicks heard when speech simply had been turned off.  He had to get a sighted person to enter his pass code before it would work. He is a good iphone user, he said that nothing he tried would get it to work. I hope these are isolated incidents, I put it out there for others to test. 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