For my part, I don't expect the same feature set in all parts of the world for the same device, and I wouldn't find this insulting. Just as people have the right to choose which product they want to buy, companies have the right to choose what product they want to sell, and this includes offering slightly different feature sets in different parts of the world. Citizens of different countries may expect different things or be willing to pay more or less for the same feature. Countries have differing laws and different cultures will have different expectations. Bottom line is that companies are going to try to maximize their profit, and if this means tweaking the feature set from country to country then that's what they're going to do.
Haven't there been times when Apple has released a device worldwide but some services were only available in the US to start out with? What about things like differing power standards, laws requiring USB support, different frequency spectrums and so on. All just my opinion, but Apple isn't going to change their ways just because I want them to. Unless I'm willing to send Apple a message from my wallet, I'll just keep looking at my product options and buying something from what's currently available and not what I want to be available. I'm perfectly happy with an ESIM, and in fact I prefer it due to it's ease of use for what I want to do with a smart phone. I respect those who want a physical SIM though, and I'd never push back against them or expect them to use an ESIM just because it works for me. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ Chaltain at Outlook, USA -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 4:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States? Well said, Julian. In addition, if I pay the same money for a product as those outside the US, then I expect the same feature set. It really is that simple. To me, selling a phone model that does not offer the same features but that costs the same price as the enhanced model, is insulting. Just my opinion, of course. Mark -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Julian Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 9:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States? For what it's worth, some of us simply just enjoy the freedom of switching our Sim card between phones without having to interact with our carrier. Remember the good ole days of CDMA? Were you had to interact with the carrier and give them your electronic serial number every time you wanted to switch phones? I realize that eSIM is nowhere near as draconian, but still, some of us just enjoy that freedom and enjoy that method and it should not be taken away from us. Therefore, I fully understand why Mark wants to go through the trouble of finding an iPhone 14 that still allows him the flexibility. Not that I'm necessarily in the market for an iPhone 14, but, I will be watching this discussion with interest. I'm certain that some of my clients will asked similar questions so I would like to have good info to give them. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 19, 2022, at 4:29 AM, Star Gazer <pickrellrebe...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Wondering that too > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > llump...@austin.rr.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 9:50 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max > with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States? > > My question, why a physical sim tray when an electronic sim works just fine? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M. > Taylor > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 8:39 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max with > a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States? > > Hello Everyone, > > And so it begins. > > I was in one of my local Apple stores, yesterday taking a look at iPhone 14 > Pro Max. > > It is my hope to purchase an iPhone 14 model with a physical SIM tray. > > While discussing this with a store manager, I was somewhat surprised to learn > that, according to him, the store has been inundated by customers who only > want to buy iPhone 14 with a physical SIM tray. He told me that they are > working on crafting an in-store response to the enquiries designed to > discouraged customers from seeking a physical SIM tray. He followed that up > by saying, "I know you, Mark, and no response is going to keep you from > getting that SIM tray model, if that is what you want." (smile) He is a > very smart man (smile). > > So, the search begins. > > Does anyone know away to purchase an iPhone 14 Pro Max with a physical SIM > tray, from within the United States? > > Some people are saying that if you buy a model from the Apple online store, > without designating a wireless provider, that Apple will ship you a model > with a physical SIM tray. However, I cannot locate anyone to confirm this. > > Make no mistake, I'm not above taking a short trek up to Canada to pick up a > model but if I can avoid it, I would prefer to do so. > > I have a friend who is heading to Japan in a couple of weeks and, of course, > I could have the friend pick up a model, in Japan, but that makes me somewhat > uncomfortable; I don't know why. I think I'd rather go to Canada, in person, > to grab a model. > > All replies greatly appreciated. > > Mark > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. 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