As it stands even if Mark decides to buy the phone from somewhere else it should work just fine here in the states. I mean people buy the phones here all the time and send them to other places. Yes if you take your sim from your 13 and put it back in your 8 it will just work.
On 10/19/22, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote: > I think Mark’s question is perfectly reasonable and has become confused with > other issues. > > Here in the UK my understanding is that iPhone models come with a removable > SIM tray. When I discussed ESIM with my provider EE the person I spoke to > was far from advising me that an ESIM was the way to go. > > Malcolm Parfitt > >> On 19 Oct 2022, at 22:27, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >> >> Peter, with all do respect, this is not the same as the removal of the >> headphone jack. >> >> In that instance, the jack was removed from all new models of the phone, >> regardless of from where they were purchased. >> >> I did not start this thread to engage in a debate. >> >> Each person is free to purchase his /her preferred device. >> >> In my case, I will do my best to obtain the model that allows me the >> greatest wireless carrier flexibility. >> >> So, let's keep this thread on point; said point being how, if possible, to >> purchase iPhone 14 with a physical SIM tray from within the United >> States. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Mark >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >> Peter Logan >> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 2:18 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro >> Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States? >> >> This is like the headphone jack controversy all over again .. LOL >> >> Get ready for it again in a couple of years when the lightening port .. or >> at the time USBC port goes away .. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M. >> Taylor >> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 5:14 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro >> Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States? >> >> Well said, Julian. >> >> In addition, if I pay the same money for a product as those outside the >> US, then I expect the same feature set. It really is that simple. To me, >> selling a phone model that does not offer the same features but that costs >> the same price as the enhanced model, is insulting. >> >> Just my opinion, of course. >> >> Mark >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >> Julian >> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 9:20 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro >> Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States? >> >> For what it's worth, some of us simply just enjoy the freedom of switching >> our Sim card between phones without having to interact with our carrier. >> Remember the good ole days of CDMA? Were you had to interact with the >> carrier and give them your electronic serial number every time you wanted >> to switch phones? I realize that eSIM is nowhere near as draconian, but >> still, some of us just enjoy that freedom and enjoy that method and it >> should not be taken away from us. Therefore, I fully understand why Mark >> wants to go through the trouble of finding an iPhone 14 that still allows >> him the flexibility. Not that I'm necessarily in the market for an iPhone >> 14, but, I will be watching this discussion with interest. I'm certain >> that some of my clients will asked similar questions so I would like to >> have good info to give them. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 19, 2022, at 4:29 AM, Star Gazer <pickrellrebe...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Wondering that too >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>> llump...@austin.rr.com >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 9:50 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro >>> Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States? >>> >>> My question, why a physical sim tray when an electronic sim works just >>> fine? >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M. >>> Taylor >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 8:39 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max >>> with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States? >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> And so it begins. >>> >>> I was in one of my local Apple stores, yesterday taking a look at iPhone >>> 14 Pro Max. >>> >>> It is my hope to purchase an iPhone 14 model with a physical SIM tray. >>> >>> While discussing this with a store manager, I was somewhat surprised to >>> learn that, according to him, the store has been inundated by customers >>> who only want to buy iPhone 14 with a physical SIM tray. He told me that >>> they are working on crafting an in-store response to the enquiries >>> designed to discouraged customers from seeking a physical SIM tray. He >>> followed that up by saying, "I know you, Mark, and no response is going >>> to keep you from getting that SIM tray model, if that is what you want." >>> (smile) He is a very smart man (smile). >>> >>> So, the search begins. >>> >>> Does anyone know away to purchase an iPhone 14 Pro Max with a physical >>> SIM tray, from within the United States? >>> >>> Some people are saying that if you buy a model from the Apple online >>> store, without designating a wireless provider, that Apple will ship you >>> a model with a physical SIM tray. However, I cannot locate anyone to >>> confirm this. >>> >>> Make no mistake, I'm not above taking a short trek up to Canada to pick >>> up a model but if I can avoid it, I would prefer to do so. >>> >>> I have a friend who is heading to Japan in a couple of weeks and, of >>> course, I could have the friend pick up a model, in Japan, but that makes >>> me somewhat uncomfortable; I don't know why. I think I'd rather go to >>> Canada, in person, to grab a model. >>> >>> All replies greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>> list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. 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