I think, maybe the catch to Face ID is holding the phone at least ten inches 
away from your face. 

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 3:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max 
with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?

Speaking of the home button, it isn't getting used to no home button that is a 
problem for me.  I'm getting used to face ID and that is still somewhat of an 
issue for me.  Not having a home button, is no big deal.  I just wish I could 
still have touch ID instead of face ID.

On 10/20/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> I think it is kind of like the Home Button; there are those who will grieve.
> I wonder how much longer the SE models will have a Home Button?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 12:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 
> 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>
> And if all you have to do is transfer your e-SIM from your old iPhone 
> to your new one during the setup process of your new phone it would be 
> just as easy peasy.
> I understand why people who make a living reviewing products have 
> multiple phones and want to transfer a SIM from one device to another 
> a lot, but I never understood why somebody would want to spend all 
> that money to buy 2 or
> 3 high-end phones and use one this day or this week and another the 
> next. I would venture a guess and say that this is a pretty small 
> minority among phone owners.
> I haven't really read up on this, but I understand that transferring 
> an e-SIM from an old phone to a new one is a pretty easy and straight 
> forward thing. I actually switched to an e-SIM on my iPhone 11 because 
> I wanted the physical SIM tray to be available for when I travel to 
> the Philippines with my wife. I haven't bought a new phone since then 
> so I didn't have to transfer said e-SIM. Anyways, if there is an easy 
> way to transfer an e-SIM between 2 or 3 devices whenever one wants to 
> do so then the argument about the physical SIM becomes a mute point. 
> From the little I did read all it may take is a QR code from your 
> carrier and then to scan said QR code to transfer the e-SIM and before 
> I would moon over the lack of a physical SIM I would certainly want to 
> inform myself as to how easy or not it is to switch e-SIMs between the 
> devices I have.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 1:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 
> 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>
> I have had the same sim card now since my iPhone 5S. Each time I get a 
> new one I just pop the card out and put it in the new one. Easy peasy.
>
> Chris Judge
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Julian
> Sent: October 19, 2022 8:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 
> 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>
> The sad reality is, every time Apple shows "courage " look out, it 
> means that somethings about to get taken away. Just like every time 
> something is done in the name of "safety" it usually means some right 
> or liberty is about to get taken away, that's as far as I'll go into that on 
> this list though.
> Good luck in being able to get the phone that you want with a Sim 
> tray. For my part, I'm going to hold onto my SE3 which is working 
> quite nicely and suiting my needs.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 19, 2022, at 3:57 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
>> <chalt...@outlook.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I'd expect it to just work. I get the situation where people want to 
>> be able to use multiple phones by just switching out the SIM card, 
>> but that's not something I'm interested in doing. When I got my 
>> iPhone 11, the person at the AT&T store basically just handed me my 
>> phone and I could walk out of the store with it. I asked if there was 
>> something we needed to do, like swap the SIM card, and he said no, it 
>> was all good. It was the easiest it's ever been for me to get a new 
>> phone, and it was the least amount of time I've ever spent in a carrier's 
>> store.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 5:14 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 
>> 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>>
>> When I got my 13 pro max, I put in my sim card from my iPhone 8 for 
>> the first time.  It was surprisingly easy.  I wonder what would 
>> happen if I took the sim card from my 13 pro max and put it back into my 
>> iPhone 8.
>>
>>> On 10/19/22, dandrews...@comcast.net <dandrews...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> I am not an expert in these things, but I think that phones in 
>>> specific countries are set up to use the cell bands in use in that 
>>> country, so if you buy one from outside the United States, you could 
>>> have problems, in theory.
>>> I could be wrong, but if it were me, I would investigate.
>>>
>>> Well, actually if it were me which I am, I just got a simless 14 Pro.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>>> Of lenron brown
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 4:36 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 
>>> 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>>>
>>> 13 pro max, unless you order from outside the states. This is pretty 
>>> much the only way, unless you have someone buy it and send it to you.
>>> being someone that loves having the freedom to swap devices I get 
>>> not wanting this 14 pro max.
>>>
>>>> On 10/19/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>>> I do the same, Regina, get the store person to get my phone going.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>> Behalf Of regina alvarado
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 5:18 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 
>>>> 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>>>>
>>>> It’s an interesting question. I keep getting the message on my 13 
>>>> promax that I don’t have a Sim card, and I Have to say okay each time.
>>>> Is there a way to get this off my phone or am I supposed to have a 
>>>> SIM card? By the way, what is a SIM card? My education is lacking.
>>>> I’m not sure I’ve ever had one. I always have my phones Put 
>>>> together by a person at the store for whatever company I’ve been 
>>>> with, and never have they ask me for my Sim card.
>>>> Anyway, just a little confused. Thanks for any help you can give 
>>>> me, and sorry that I’m asking a stupid question.
>>>> Reggie Alvarado
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 19, 2022, at 2:29 PM, Peter Logan <pdlloga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my IPhone.
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 19, 2022, at 1:47 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the same question.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>>>>> On Behalf Of llump...@austin.rr.com
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 9:50 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 
>>>>> 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>>>>>
>>>>> My question, why a physical sim tray when an electronic sim works 
>>>>> just fine?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
>>>>> Behalf Of M.
>>>>> Taylor
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 8:39 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 
>>>>> 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> And so it begins.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was in one of my local Apple stores, yesterday taking a look at 
>>>>> iPhone
>>>>> 14 Pro Max.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is my hope to purchase an iPhone 14 model with a physical SIM tray.
>>>>>
>>>>> While discussing this with a store manager, I was somewhat 
>>>>> surprised to learn that, according to him, the store has been 
>>>>> inundated  by customers who only want to buy iPhone 14 with a 
>>>>> physical SIM tray.
>>>>> He told me that they are working on crafting an in-store response 
>>>>> to the enquiries designed to discouraged customers from seeking a 
>>>>> physical SIM tray.  He followed that up by saying, "I know you, 
>>>>> Mark, and no response is going to keep you from getting that SIM 
>>>>> tray model, if that is what you want."
>>>>> (smile)  He is a very smart man (smile).
>>>>>
>>>>> So, the search begins.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know away to purchase an iPhone 14 Pro Max with a 
>>>>> physical SIM tray, from within the United States?
>>>>>
>>>>> Some people are saying that if you buy a model from the Apple 
>>>>> online store, without designating a wireless provider, that Apple 
>>>>> will ship you a model with a physical SIM tray.  However, I cannot 
>>>>> locate anyone to confirm this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Make no mistake, I'm not above taking a short trek up to Canada to 
>>>>> pick up a model but if I can avoid it, I would prefer to do so.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a friend who is heading to Japan in a couple of weeks and, 
>>>>> of course, I could have the friend pick up a model, in Japan, but 
>>>>> that makes me somewhat uncomfortable; I don't know why.  I think 
>>>>> I'd rather go to Canada, in person, to grab a model.
>>>>>
>>>>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
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