Hi Chris,

I remember when the iPhone 5S first came out which had the Nano SIM that I went 
to the Philippines and had a really hard time finding a Nano SIM since most of 
the carriers and devices still used full-size SIM's or Micro SIM's. I ended up 
finding a place where they told me that a Micro SIM can actually be cut to fit 
a Nano SIM tray and that is what they did, but when technologies change there 
is always a period of a couple of years when things might not be quite as one 
would like, certainly keeping your old phone for travel will solve your issue. 
I think, however, that many carriers in many countries will offer e-SIM options 
because honestly it is such a superior system that I wonder why nobody came up 
with it years ago.


-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 7:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max 
with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?

Hi folks,
I followed this thread with interest, because I travel overseas frequently 
enough to be concerned about the lack of physical sim tray in iPhone 14 series 
sold in the US. Each time I travel to another country I buy a local sim 
specific to the country I am visiting. Usually it takes less than two minutes 
to replace my american with the local sim and start using a local number. 
Nevertheless, I ordered iPhone 14 Pro and just received it this evening. For 
the last three years I have been using an ESIM on my XR in order to keep my 
physical sim tray free for the time of travel overseas. 
Setting up my new phone was very easy and surprisingly, the automatic transfer 
of my e-sim from my XR to my 14 Pro went very smoothly. For the time being, I 
will keep my XR saved for travel overseas, just in case I found it difficult to 
get e-sims in other countries, and I recommend to any of you who travel 
frequently overseas to keep your old phones for this purpose if you upgrade to 
series 14.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2022, at 6:25 PM, Michael Irons <theleo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I would refuse to have an eSIM unless I was given a specific set of 
> instructions as to how to transfer the Sim between one found in another. I 
> have my old iPhone six which I would want to go to if my present iPhone gives 
> me problems. I would not want to be without that physical Sim card for right 
> now. Maybe for all times going forward.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2022, at 2:15 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I think it is kind of like the Home Button; there are those who will 
>> grieve. I wonder how much longer the SE models will have a Home Button? 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 12:34 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max 
>> with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>> 
>> And if all you have to do is transfer your e-SIM from your old iPhone to 
>> your new one during the setup process of your new phone it would be just as 
>> easy peasy.
>> I understand why people who make a living reviewing products have multiple 
>> phones and want to transfer a SIM from one device to another a lot, but I 
>> never understood why somebody would want to spend all that money to buy 2 or 
>> 3 high-end phones and use one this day or this week and another the next. I 
>> would venture a guess and say that this is a pretty small minority among 
>> phone owners.
>> I haven't really read up on this, but I understand that transferring an 
>> e-SIM from an old phone to a new one is a pretty easy and straight forward 
>> thing. I actually switched to an e-SIM on my iPhone 11 because I wanted the 
>> physical SIM tray to be available for when I travel to the Philippines with 
>> my wife. I haven't bought a new phone since then so I didn't have to 
>> transfer said e-SIM. Anyways, if there is an easy way to transfer an e-SIM 
>> between 2 or 3 devices whenever one wants to do so then the argument about 
>> the physical SIM becomes a mute point. From the little I did read all it may 
>> take is a QR code from your carrier and then to scan said QR code to 
>> transfer the e-SIM and before I would moon over the lack of a physical SIM I 
>> would certainly want to inform myself as to how easy or not it is to switch 
>> e-SIMs between the devices I have.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>> Of chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 1:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max 
>> with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>> 
>> I have had the same sim card now since my iPhone 5S. Each time I get a new 
>> one I just pop the card out and put it in the new one. Easy peasy.
>> 
>> Chris Judge
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>> Of Julian
>> Sent: October 19, 2022 8:17 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max 
>> with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>> 
>> The sad reality is, every time Apple shows "courage " look out, it means 
>> that somethings about to get taken away. Just like every time something is 
>> done in the name of "safety" it usually means some right or liberty is about 
>> to get taken away, that's as far as I'll go into that on this list though. 
>> Good luck in being able to get the phone that you want with a Sim tray. For 
>> my part, I'm going to hold onto my SE3 which is working quite nicely and 
>> suiting my needs. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Oct 19, 2022, at 3:57 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@outlook.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'd expect it to just work. I get the situation where people want to be 
>>> able to use multiple phones by just switching out the SIM card, but that's 
>>> not something I'm interested in doing. When I got my iPhone 11, the person 
>>> at the AT&T store basically just handed me my phone and I could walk out of 
>>> the store with it. I asked if there was something we needed to do, like 
>>> swap the SIM card, and he said no, it was all good. It was the easiest it's 
>>> ever been for me to get a new phone, and it was the least amount of time 
>>> I've ever spent in a carrier's store.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 5:14 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max 
>>> with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>>> 
>>> When I got my 13 pro max, I put in my sim card from my iPhone 8 for the 
>>> first time.  It was surprisingly easy.  I wonder what would happen if I 
>>> took the sim card from my 13 pro max and put it back into my iPhone 8.
>>> 
>>>>> On 10/19/22, dandrews...@comcast.net <dandrews...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> I am not an expert in these things, but I think that phones in 
>>>> specific countries are set up to use the cell bands in use in that 
>>>> country, so if you buy one from outside the United States, you could have 
>>>> problems, in theory.
>>>> I could be wrong, but if it were me, I would investigate.
>>>> 
>>>> Well, actually if it were me which I am, I just got a simless 14 Pro.
>>>> 
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>>>> Of lenron brown
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 4:36 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 
>>>> 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>>>> 
>>>> 13 pro max, unless you order from outside the states. This is 
>>>> pretty much the only way, unless you have someone buy it and send it to 
>>>> you.
>>>> being someone that loves having the freedom to swap devices I get 
>>>> not wanting this 14 pro max.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/19/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>>>> I do the same, Regina, get the store person to get my phone going.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>>>>> On Behalf Of regina alvarado
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 5:18 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 
>>>>> 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>>>>> 
>>>>> It’s an interesting question. I keep getting the message on my 13 
>>>>> promax that I don’t have a Sim card, and I Have to say okay each time.
>>>>> Is there a way to get this off my phone or am I supposed to have a 
>>>>> SIM card? By the way, what is a SIM card? My education is lacking.
>>>>> I’m not sure I’ve ever had one. I always have my phones Put 
>>>>> together by a person at the store for whatever company I’ve been 
>>>>> with, and never have they ask me for my Sim card.
>>>>> Anyway, just a little confused. Thanks for any help you can give 
>>>>> me, and sorry that I’m asking a stupid question.
>>>>> Reggie Alvarado
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 19, 2022, at 2:29 PM, Peter Logan <pdlloga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my IPhone.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 19, 2022, at 1:47 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have the same question.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>>>>>> On Behalf Of llump...@austin.rr.com
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 9:50 PM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 
>>>>>> 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My question, why a physical sim tray when an electronic sim works 
>>>>>> just fine?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
>>>>>> Behalf Of M.
>>>>>> Taylor
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 8:39 PM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 
>>>>>> 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And so it begins.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I was in one of my local Apple stores, yesterday taking a look at 
>>>>>> iPhone
>>>>>> 14 Pro Max.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is my hope to purchase an iPhone 14 model with a physical SIM tray.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> While discussing this with a store manager, I was somewhat 
>>>>>> surprised to learn that, according to him, the store has been 
>>>>>> inundated  by customers who only want to buy iPhone 14 with a physical 
>>>>>> SIM tray.
>>>>>> He told me that they are working on crafting an in-store response 
>>>>>> to the enquiries designed to discouraged customers from seeking a 
>>>>>> physical SIM tray.  He followed that up by saying, "I know you, 
>>>>>> Mark, and no response is going to keep you from getting that SIM 
>>>>>> tray model, if that is what you want."
>>>>>> (smile)  He is a very smart man (smile).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, the search begins.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Does anyone know away to purchase an iPhone 14 Pro Max with a 
>>>>>> physical SIM tray, from within the United States?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Some people are saying that if you buy a model from the Apple 
>>>>>> online store, without designating a wireless provider, that Apple 
>>>>>> will ship you a model with a physical SIM tray.  However, I 
>>>>>> cannot locate anyone to confirm this.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Make no mistake, I'm not above taking a short trek up to Canada 
>>>>>> to pick up a model but if I can avoid it, I would prefer to do so.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have a friend who is heading to Japan in a couple of weeks and, 
>>>>>> of course, I could have the friend pick up a model, in Japan, but 
>>>>>> that makes me somewhat uncomfortable; I don't know why.  I think 
>>>>>> I'd rather go to Canada, in person, to grab a model.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>> 
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