Hi all, on this same subject, I noticed that no one has mentioned the iPhone 
12. And I have also seen on this list that people have had problems with their 
iPhone 12. If someone is in the market for an iPhone should they not get an 
iPhone 12 or would it matter.

Lelia 

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> On Oct 22, 2022, at 7:15 AM, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Joshua, I wasn't aware of that storage limitation in the SE3. That 
> does make a difference in my choice.
> 
> Evan
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/22/2022 8:20 AM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
>> Another thing to consider, is storage space on your chosen iPhone.
>> The new SE3 only goes up to 256 gig just like the iPhone 8.  I know
>> the 13 mini goes up to at least 512 gigs.
>> 
>>> On 10/21/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> It is just that the pro models offer LiDAR and door ID like wooden door,
>>> four feet; wooden door, two feet. Also, the 14 Pro gives a sound when
>>> powered on and off.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Evan Reese
>>> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 4:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>>> 
>>> Thanks Sieghard, I appreciate this.
>>> 
>>> I will check the 13 Pro and 14 Pro out and definitely hold them before I
>>> decide.
>>> 
>>> I'm not out for the most expensive phone I can get. But on the other hand,
>>> since I don't plan to get one of these every year or two, I do want to get a
>>> good one that will last.
>>> 
>>> Basically, I do want a high end model in a small package, not a big slab I
>>> have to carry around.
>>> 
>>> Evan
>>> On 10/21/2022 2:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>>> I would recommend the iPhone 13 Mini, but before you decide I'd take a
>>>> look at the 13 Pro if money is not a huge concern. You could of course
>>>> also consider the latest 14 Pro, but that would for you to decide. Here
>>>> are a few reasons why I suggest 13 Mini or 13 Pro/14 Pro:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. The SE third Gen is probably a fine phone, but it still has a Touch Id
>>>> virtual home button. I know many people buy it for exactly that reason,
>>>> but personally while having both Touch Id and Face Id would be best, if I
>>>> had to decide between Touch Id and Face Id I would choose Face Id. There
>>>> is also the fact that the Se third Gen may very well be the last phone
>>>> with a home button and Touch Id unless (as I said earlier) they introduce
>>>> under display Touch I dat some point in addition to Face Id. I am saying
>>>> this because I just read an article where John Prosser, who has a pretty
>>>> good track record with his predictions, is revealing first information
>>>> about the iPhone SE 4th Gen which is expected to be released next spring
>>>> as the new lowe cost iPhone. According to that article that new iPhone SE
>>>> may look a lot like an XR with a big notch, but it appears that the home
>>>> button may go away and since I doubt Apple will put a Touch Id capable
>>>> side button on any phone I guess this means it will of course have Face
>>>> Id. I would get used to using a phone without home button from the start
>>>> even though having an iPad you of course would be used to a home button,
>>>> but if this rumour about the fourth generation SE is true then it means we
>>>> will never again see an iPhone with a home button.
>>>> 
>>>> 2. I mention the 13 Pro or 14 Pro because you should really check them out
>>>> and hold them in your hand and compare then to an iPhone 13 Mini. They
>>>> really are not all that much larger physically, but you get the benefit of
>>>> the LiDAR sensor which is required for features like door detection and
>>>> maybe other things in the future.
>>>> 
>>>> Lastly, I wouldn't buy an SE because I think having the ability to use
>>>> MagSafe accessories such as charging pads, cases and external batteries is
>>>> very nice and to my knowledge not even the third Gen iPhone SE has
>>>> MagSafe. I assume the 13 Mini has it, but definitely the 13 Pro and 14 Pro
>>>> have it.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
>>>> llump...@austin.rr.com
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 7:48 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> Susan and I both have the SE3 and like them very much.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
>>>> Evan Reese
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:11 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> Hey Guys,
>>>> 
>>>> I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that
>>>> looked like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told
>>>> me that they weren't making newer models of that one.
>>>> 
>>>> Is that true?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks much.
>>>> 
>>>> Evan
>>>> 
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