It is just that the pro models offer LiDAR and door ID like wooden door, four 
feet; wooden door, two feet. Also, the 14 Pro gives a sound when powered on and 
off. 

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Evan Reese
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone

Thanks Sieghard, I appreciate this.

I will check the 13 Pro and 14 Pro out and definitely hold them before I decide.

I'm not out for the most expensive phone I can get. But on the other hand, 
since I don't plan to get one of these every year or two, I do want to get a 
good one that will last.

Basically, I do want a high end model in a small package, not a big slab I have 
to carry around.

Evan
On 10/21/2022 2:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> I would recommend the iPhone 13 Mini, but before you decide I'd take a look 
> at the 13 Pro if money is not a huge concern. You could of course also 
> consider the latest 14 Pro, but that would for you to decide. Here are a few 
> reasons why I suggest 13 Mini or 13 Pro/14 Pro:
>
> 1. The SE third Gen is probably a fine phone, but it still has a Touch Id 
> virtual home button. I know many people buy it for exactly that reason, but 
> personally while having both Touch Id and Face Id would be best, if I had to 
> decide between Touch Id and Face Id I would choose Face Id. There is also the 
> fact that the Se third Gen may very well be the last phone with a home button 
> and Touch Id unless (as I said earlier) they introduce under display Touch I 
> dat some point in addition to Face Id. I am saying this because I just read 
> an article where John Prosser, who has a pretty good track record with his 
> predictions, is revealing first information about the iPhone SE 4th Gen which 
> is expected to be released next spring as the new lowe cost iPhone. According 
> to that article that new iPhone SE may look a lot like an XR with a big 
> notch, but it appears that the home button may go away and since I doubt 
> Apple will put a Touch Id capable side button on any phone I guess this means 
> it will of course have Face Id. I would get used to using a phone without 
> home button from the start even though having an iPad you of course would be 
> used to a home button, but if this rumour about the fourth generation SE is 
> true then it means we will never again see an iPhone with a home button.
>
> 2. I mention the 13 Pro or 14 Pro because you should really check them out 
> and hold them in your hand and compare then to an iPhone 13 Mini. They really 
> are not all that much larger physically, but you get the benefit of the LiDAR 
> sensor which is required for features like door detection and maybe other 
> things in the future.
>
> Lastly, I wouldn't buy an SE because I think having the ability to use 
> MagSafe accessories such as charging pads, cases and external batteries is 
> very nice and to my knowledge not even the third Gen iPhone SE has MagSafe. I 
> assume the 13 Mini has it, but definitely the 13 Pro and 14 Pro have it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> llump...@austin.rr.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 7:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>
> Susan and I both have the SE3 and like them very much.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Evan Reese
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: I'm in the Market for a Small iPhone
>
> Hey Guys,
>
> I meant to mention that I saw an iPhone 13 Mini not too long ago that looked 
> like just the thing if I want a small model, but someone else told me that 
> they weren't making newer models of that one.
>
> Is that true?
>
> Thanks much.
>
> Evan
>
>
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