First of all, I never said I think high-speed data transfers aren't important for some people. What I said was that I heard Apple is limiting the speed of the USB-C port to that of what the Lightning port now has.
I am also quite convinced that Apple is working towards an iPhone without any ports and that just as when they ditched the 3.5mm headphone jack, once they do this Samsung and others will follow on their heels. Here a bit more regarding the statement "it may also have dual channel satellite navigation, giving location data as accurate as an inch compared to the 20 feet single channel offers" One inch accuracy is very difficult to achieve especially in cities between tall buildings and while a measurement over a long period of time may result in extremely high accuracy, most consumer devices cannot do this in most applications or without the euse of additional "augmentation systems<https://www.gps.gov/systems/augmentations/#:~:text=A%20GPS%20augmentation%20is%20any,the%20public%20and%20private%20sectors.>", here the definition of what that is: A GPS augmentation is any system that aids GPS by providing accuracy, integrity, availability, or any other improvement to positioning, navigation, and timing that is not inherently part of GPS itself. Another article I read says this "Yes, there are GPS systems that can measure locations with accuracy up to 1 inch. These systems are known as Real-Time Kinematic (RTK) GPS systems. They use a fixed base station and a mobile receiver to calculate highly accurate positions." And here a page from the US government website about GPS accuracy<https://www.gps.gov/systems/gps/performance/accuracy/>, one highlight here is this: The official GPS site has a good description of accuracy. It will depend on the quality of your equipment, how many satellites are visible and processing in your equipment and the quality of the GPS signals (direct, reflection, interference). As measured by the Air Force that runs the GPS program, the error across the entire constellation of satellites was 2.1 feet, 95% of the time on 20 April 2021. Also, I hear sometimes people say the US government deliverately makes the GPS system less accurate; this is not true as of over 20 years ago, specifically in 2000 then President Bill Clinton put a stop to the so-called "selective availabbility" which was used throughout the 90's globally to make GPS signals for civilian use less accurate. On the GPS website it says " The United States has no intent to ever use Selective Availability again.". What Kelly described is technically called "dual frequency" or "multi band" and many of the newer Garmin GPS's including some of Garmin's watches already have this. Here an excerpt from an explanation from the Garmin website: What is Dual Frequency/Multi-Band GPS? Dual-frequency or "Multi-Band" systems use multiple frequency bands and allow for more consistent tracklogs and improved positioning when using the device in challenging environments. This means the receiver tracks more than one radio signal from each satellite on different frequencies, which can reduce errors caused by environmental interference. What Advantages Do Multi-Band Devices Have Over Other Models? • More consistent tracklogs and improved positioning when using the device in challenging environments (e.g. around tall buildings in urban canyons as well as tree cover) • Can achieve accuracy within about +/- 2 meters or 6 feet under ideal conditions versus the +/- 3 meters or 10 feet accuracy of other models • Detect (and reject) reflected satellite signals better than a single frequency receiver which improves accuracy • Better equipped to account for and correct errors that can be introduced by atmospheric effects (e.g. ionosphere errors) NOTE: Multi-GNSS satellite systems include GPS, GLONASS, Galileo, QZSS, BeiDou, and IRNSS (NavIC). Some satellite systems are not available in all areas of the globe. For more details, see https://www.gps.gov/systems/gnss/ I am sure the iPhone 15 Pro will undoubtedly be a fantastic device, but it seems Apple is differenciating the Pro models more and more from the regular models and then we have rumours of an iPhone 15 Ultra although I also read that this may possibly what Apple will call the iPhone 15 Pro Max and they will give it even more features or make it tougher than the regular iPhone 15 Pro. I guess we have to wait and see, but don't hold your breath that any iPhone in the near future will give you 1 inch GPS accuracy especially not in the places where most people live like cities with tall buildings and many sources of potential interference. For now the next big reveal will be iOS 17 on Monday, June 5 which Apple announced today is when WWDC will start. Then we'll wait another 3 or so months and probably on Tuesday, September 12 or so Apple wil lhave the fall hardware reveal although most rumours will have been confirmed at least a few weeks before then. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 8:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models I agree with Joshua that the iPhone 15 Pro is setting up to be a spectacular upgrade. It will have USBC supporting USB 3.2, which is 10 to 20 times the transfer rate of the current USB 2.0 technology. It will be the first smart phone with a three nanometer processor, delivering blazing fast speeds. It may also have dual channel satellite navigation, giving location data as accurate as an inch compared to the 20 feet single channel offers that was in all iPhones before the 14 Pro. Seigard, I disagree about the need for high speed data transfers. I now have 512 GB of storage. Some iPhones have a whole terabyte. With USB 2.0, transferring tens of thousands of music tracks takes several hours. This is also so for sighted people taking uncompressed photos with the 48-megapixel camera or 4k video. They need to move these big photos and videos off their phones and onto their computers for more storage. For blind people, they may want to move a motley Crew discography off their phone after listening to it in the gym five times and change it out for another metal band. Kelly On 3/29/23, CHELA Robles <cdrobles...@gmail.com<mailto:cdrobles...@gmail.com>> wrote: > And I’m also considering Getting a new Apple Watch since my Apple > Watch fifth generation died two weeks before Christmas last year I > saved up enough money, thinking about getting the ultra because of a > bigger screen, and the fact that it has two speakers and tactile > buttons. If I type it right if I get it or rather if I purchase it on > April 5 I should have it by my birthday which is April 6. This is > definitely a year of new stuff! Whatever phone model you end up with, > I hope it serves you well. Not everybody can afford the latest and > greatest all the time of everything but I say whatever works best for you. I > hope it works out for you. Good luck. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:48 AM, CHELA Robles >> <cdrobles...@gmail.com<mailto:cdrobles...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Well, my dad got a good deal since he’s a part of Sam’s Club as a >> member at least and anyway I got an iPhone 14 and it’s working well >> for me and I’m totally blind. I do have to say it is much faster than >> the 8+. I do like the feature where when you power on and off the >> phone it actually makes a sound. I never got that with the 8+. Yes, >> it doesn’t have all the bells and whistles like the pro model does >> but whatever works for you is hell I tend to lean. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel >>> <siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: >>> >>> I would highly recommend you get the iPhone 14 Pro. If you are >>> considering the iPhone 14 you would be better of to see if you can >>> find an iPhone 13 Pro instead. >>> The iPhone 14 did not get the newest processor like the iPhone 14 >>> Pro/Pro Max did and this is the first time that Apple has not put >>> their latest chip in a new phone. Basically if you buy an iPhone 14 >>> you get the same processor as the iPhone 13/13 Pro. >>> One thing the Pro models have (apart from better cameras) is the >>> LiDAR sensor which allows features like door detection and so on. I >>> assume as time goes by, more developers may make use of it so I >>> think it's a good thing to have a phone which has the LiDAR sensor. >>> This means you have to get a Pro phone, the first one which had this >>> was the iPhone 12 Pro, when the iPhone 13/13 Pro phons came out the >>> 13 Pro again had it and not the regular 13 and the same applies to >>> the 14 and 14 Pro, the 14 Pro/Pro Max have the liDAR sensor and the >>> regular 14 and 14 Plus do not. This is why I feel as a blind person >>> you are better off with an iPhone 13 Pro over a regular iPhone 14. >>> Also you probably get a better deal on an iPhone 13 Pro, but I know here in >>> Canada they are becoming a bit harder to find. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf >>> Of William Outman >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 10:03 PM >>> To: V IPhone List >>> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> >>> Subject: Differences in iPhone 14 models >>> >>> Okay, I’m ready to make the jump from my 8 Plus soon. >>> I am interested in the iPhone 14 models, but know there are several >>> choices in this family. >>> I need to know the differences in features and prices so I can >>> decide which one to get. 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