I'd never encourage or discourage anyone from updating IOS, but I'm not sure Ive ever seen a flawless OS.😉
— Christopher (AKA CJ) on the move Chaltain at Gmail > On Apr 8, 2023, at 8:28 PM, Kelly Pierce <kellyt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > For those of us who remember iOS 11 which was released in 2017, it was > plagued with bugs. I did not update my iPhone until the spring when > Apple squashed most of them. I was nagged to update but never did > until I was ready to enjoy a flawless experience. > > Kelly > > > >> On 4/8/23, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >> I disagree, I have never had my iPhone update entirely by itself if I didn't >> want it to. I have a friend in Germany who has an iPhone SE 2020 which is >> certainly capable of running iOS 16.4, but for some reason he wants to stay >> on iOS 15 right now and that is what he is on. I think sometimes people >> accidently tap something not realizing they just agreed to having an update >> install later, but you do have to enter your PIN and tap on "I Agree" at >> least I have never done an iOS update since my first iOS device in 2009 >> where this was not the case and it's now easier than ever to avoid updates >> if you don't want them. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >> Michael McKay >> Sent: Friday, April 7, 2023 2:16 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Apple's software updates are breaking things - is it time we >> delayed installing them? iMore, The #1 iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch blog >> >> Hi folks: >> >> It’s been my experience that the updates to the Apple iPhone iPad the >> computer being the Mac, will only delay the updates. Sooner or later it will >> update on its own there’s no way to block them indefinitely. I’ve tried on >> my own phone and I picked it up one day and found it updating on its own >> even if the automatic update feature is turned off. Just thought I would let >> folks know that so please be aware of that >> >> Have a happy and safe Easter weekend. >> >> Cheers! >> >> Michael G. MacKay BA, ‘05. >> Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Apr 7, 2023, at 14:53, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >>> >>> iMore - The #1 iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch blog - Thursday, April 6, >>> 2023 at 8:41 AM >>> >>> Apple's software updates are breaking things - is it time we delayed >>> installing them? >>> Maybe let someone else find the bugs for a change. >>> >>> Apple releases plenty of software updates. It's one of the things that >>> we like about the iPhone in particular >>> >>> Apple is always adding new features and fixing bugs. But sometimes it >>> introduces whole new ones in the process, and that's less than ideal. >>> >>> I've historically told people to install the new hotness immediately. >>> Whether it's an update to iOS 16 or macOS Ventura, or indeed any other >>> Apple operating system, my stance has always been to install the >>> updates immediately. Who doesn't want more features and fewer bugs? >>> >>> But with Apple's software quality assurance maybe taking a hit, I'm >>> starting to rethink that. I'm thinking, maybe, it's time that someone >>> else found the bugs instead. >>> >>> We've been here before >>> Apple's software quality is something of a hot topic for some, >>> although not quite as blazing-hot as it once was. >>> >>> There was once a time when you couldn't open a podcast app without >>> someone waxing lyrical about how Apple had dropped the ball in some way or >>> another. >>> Focusing on the iPhone so much meant the Mac suffered, and there's an >>> argument that some of the macOS Ventura goings-on suggest things are >>> as bad as ever - does your Mac tell you there's a new app or service >>> running on every restart? >>> >>> But things aren't much better over in iOS land anymore, either. Things >>> are breaking and strange decisions are being made. But I can cope with >>> opinionated software development not necessarily agreeing with my >>> opinion. >>> What I don't like is introducing bugs for pretty vital bits of software. >>> >>> New iOS and macOS problems >>> Apple's latest round of updates has been problematic. >>> For example, people running macOS Ventura 13.3 and iPadOS 16.4 report >>> that they can't make Continuity work anymore. Universal Control is a >>> mess right now, while other Continuity-based features are also dead in the >>> water. >>> Copying something on a Mac and having it appear on another device when >>> you paste is the thing of magic. But it doesn't work anymore. It just, >>> doesn't. >>> The same goes for Handoff in general and it's just bad. These are >>> features that have worked for months or longer. And now they don't, >>> presumably because some service deep inside macOS is broken. >>> Yes, these things can happen. But we should expect better. We should >>> expect software updates not to break things that were working before. >>> The first rule of software updates should be that they leave devices >>> in a better state than before they were installed. And that isn't what >>> we're seeing. >>> >>> The Home app has gone backward in iOS 16.4, too. People say their >>> accessories don't work, or work intermittently which might be even >>> more infuriating. Apple has had problems with HomeKit before, and a >>> new architecture seems to be causing problems all over again after it >>> was pulled from iOS 16.2 for similar issues. >>> We can hopefully expect these issues to be fixed in the next release, >>> whenever that will arrive. >>> >>> The solution? Don't update >>> >>> So what do we do about all this? >>> Unfortunately, the only thing we can do is stop installing updates >>> immediately, mistakenly believing that they will make things better. >>> Maybe we take a week or two to see what's going on and how other >>> people fare. If things are great, great! If not, hang fire instead. >>> But that right there is another problem, this time for Apple. Because >>> it sometimes rolls out important security fixes that people need to >>> install. >>> And anything that stops them from doing that is a problem. Yes, >>> Apple's Rapid Security Response system might fix that, separating >>> security fixes from the main iOS updates. But people still need to >>> approve them. And will they do that if the trust is gone? And who >>> feels brave enough to leave automatic updates enabled? Not me. >>> >>> I used to say that the best iPhone was an updated iPhone. The same >>> went for iPads, Macs, Apple Watches, and Apple TVs. 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