You will never have a bug free experience. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2023 9:29 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple's software updates are breaking things - is it time we delayed installing them? iMore, The #1 iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch blog
For those of us who remember iOS 11 which was released in 2017, it was plagued with bugs. I did not update my iPhone until the spring when Apple squashed most of them. I was nagged to update but never did until I was ready to enjoy a flawless experience. Kelly On 4/8/23, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > I disagree, I have never had my iPhone update entirely by itself if I > didn't want it to. I have a friend in Germany who has an iPhone SE > 2020 which is certainly capable of running iOS 16.4, but for some > reason he wants to stay on iOS 15 right now and that is what he is on. > I think sometimes people accidently tap something not realizing they > just agreed to having an update install later, but you do have to > enter your PIN and tap on "I Agree" at least I have never done an iOS > update since my first iOS device in 2009 where this was not the case > and it's now easier than ever to avoid updates if you don't want them. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Michael McKay > Sent: Friday, April 7, 2023 2:16 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple's software updates are breaking things - is it time > we delayed installing them? iMore, The #1 iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch > blog > > Hi folks: > > It’s been my experience that the updates to the Apple iPhone iPad the > computer being the Mac, will only delay the updates. Sooner or later > it will update on its own there’s no way to block them indefinitely. > I’ve tried on my own phone and I picked it up one day and found it > updating on its own even if the automatic update feature is turned > off. Just thought I would let folks know that so please be aware of > that > > Have a happy and safe Easter weekend. > > Cheers! > > Michael G. MacKay BA, ‘05. > Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 7, 2023, at 14:53, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >> >> iMore - The #1 iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch blog - Thursday, April >> 6, >> 2023 at 8:41 AM >> >> Apple's software updates are breaking things - is it time we delayed >> installing them? >> Maybe let someone else find the bugs for a change. >> >> Apple releases plenty of software updates. It's one of the things >> that we like about the iPhone in particular >> >> Apple is always adding new features and fixing bugs. But sometimes it >> introduces whole new ones in the process, and that's less than ideal. >> >> I've historically told people to install the new hotness immediately. >> Whether it's an update to iOS 16 or macOS Ventura, or indeed any >> other Apple operating system, my stance has always been to install >> the updates immediately. Who doesn't want more features and fewer bugs? >> >> But with Apple's software quality assurance maybe taking a hit, I'm >> starting to rethink that. I'm thinking, maybe, it's time that someone >> else found the bugs instead. >> >> We've been here before >> Apple's software quality is something of a hot topic for some, >> although not quite as blazing-hot as it once was. >> >> There was once a time when you couldn't open a podcast app without >> someone waxing lyrical about how Apple had dropped the ball in some >> way or another. >> Focusing on the iPhone so much meant the Mac suffered, and there's an >> argument that some of the macOS Ventura goings-on suggest things are >> as bad as ever - does your Mac tell you there's a new app or service >> running on every restart? >> >> But things aren't much better over in iOS land anymore, either. >> Things are breaking and strange decisions are being made. But I can >> cope with opinionated software development not necessarily agreeing >> with my opinion. >> What I don't like is introducing bugs for pretty vital bits of software. >> >> New iOS and macOS problems >> Apple's latest round of updates has been problematic. >> For example, people running macOS Ventura 13.3 and iPadOS 16.4 report >> that they can't make Continuity work anymore. Universal Control is a >> mess right now, while other Continuity-based features are also dead >> in the water. >> Copying something on a Mac and having it appear on another device >> when you paste is the thing of magic. But it doesn't work anymore. It >> just, doesn't. >> The same goes for Handoff in general and it's just bad. These are >> features that have worked for months or longer. And now they don't, >> presumably because some service deep inside macOS is broken. >> Yes, these things can happen. But we should expect better. We should >> expect software updates not to break things that were working before. >> The first rule of software updates should be that they leave devices >> in a better state than before they were installed. And that isn't >> what we're seeing. >> >> The Home app has gone backward in iOS 16.4, too. People say their >> accessories don't work, or work intermittently which might be even >> more infuriating. Apple has had problems with HomeKit before, and a >> new architecture seems to be causing problems all over again after it >> was pulled from iOS 16.2 for similar issues. >> We can hopefully expect these issues to be fixed in the next release, >> whenever that will arrive. >> >> The solution? Don't update >> >> So what do we do about all this? >> Unfortunately, the only thing we can do is stop installing updates >> immediately, mistakenly believing that they will make things better. >> Maybe we take a week or two to see what's going on and how other >> people fare. If things are great, great! If not, hang fire instead. >> But that right there is another problem, this time for Apple. Because >> it sometimes rolls out important security fixes that people need to >> install. >> And anything that stops them from doing that is a problem. Yes, >> Apple's Rapid Security Response system might fix that, separating >> security fixes from the main iOS updates. But people still need to >> approve them. And will they do that if the trust is gone? And who >> feels brave enough to leave automatic updates enabled? Not me. >> >> I used to say that the best iPhone was an updated iPhone. The same >> went for iPads, Macs, Apple Watches, and Apple TVs. But now? >> Now I just say that the best device is the one that works like it did >> yesterday. >> >> Original article at: >> https://www.imore.com/ios/ios-16/apples-software-updates-are-breaking >> - things -is-it-time-we-delayed-installing-them >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V >> iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. 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