I got my iphone 5 in October, 2012, with IOS6 on it. The worst IOS update I remembaer was IOS 8. I don't remember all the details now, but among other things, there was something majorly wrong with the telephone part. That is why I waited until April, 2015, after 8.3 was released to get my Iphone 6. I usually wait until the first major update to a new ios is released before installing it, I didn't install16 until 16.2. I kno w it says all these updates contain security updates, they very well may, but I'll bet there is a little propaganda there, too, so people will install the update right away. I will never turn automatic updating on, I want to tell it when myself.
Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 3 On Apr 8, 2023, at 9:28 PM, Kelly Pierce <kellyt...@gmail.com> wrote: For those of us who remember iOS 11 which was released in 2017, it was plagued with bugs. I did not update my iPhone until the spring when Apple squashed most of them. I was nagged to update but never did until I was ready to enjoy a flawless experience. Kelly On 4/8/23, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > I disagree, I have never had my iPhone update entirely by itself if I didn't > want it to. I have a friend in Germany who has an iPhone SE 2020 which is > certainly capable of running iOS 16.4, but for some reason he wants to stay > on iOS 15 right now and that is what he is on. I think sometimes people > accidently tap something not realizing they just agreed to having an update > install later, but you do have to enter your PIN and tap on "I Agree" at > least I have never done an iOS update since my first iOS device in 2009 > where this was not the case and it's now easier than ever to avoid updates > if you don't want them. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Michael McKay > Sent: Friday, April 7, 2023 2:16 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple's software updates are breaking things - is it time we > delayed installing them? iMore, The #1 iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch blog > > Hi folks: > > It’s been my experience that the updates to the Apple iPhone iPad the > computer being the Mac, will only delay the updates. Sooner or later it will > update on its own there’s no way to block them indefinitely. I’ve tried on > my own phone and I picked it up one day and found it updating on its own > even if the automatic update feature is turned off. Just thought I would let > folks know that so please be aware of that > > Have a happy and safe Easter weekend. > > Cheers! > > Michael G. MacKay BA, ‘05. > Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 7, 2023, at 14:53, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >> iMore - The #1 iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch blog - Thursday, April 6, >> 2023 at 8:41 AM >> Apple's software updates are breaking things - is it time we delayed >> installing them? >> Maybe let someone else find the bugs for a change. >> Apple releases plenty of software updates. It's one of the things that >> we like about the iPhone in particular >> Apple is always adding new features and fixing bugs. But sometimes it >> introduces whole new ones in the process, and that's less than ideal. >> I've historically told people to install the new hotness immediately. >> Whether it's an update to iOS 16 or macOS Ventura, or indeed any other >> Apple operating system, my stance has always been to install the >> updates immediately. Who doesn't want more features and fewer bugs? >> But with Apple's software quality assurance maybe taking a hit, I'm >> starting to rethink that. I'm thinking, maybe, it's time that someone >> else found the bugs instead. >> We've been here before >> Apple's software quality is something of a hot topic for some, >> although not quite as blazing-hot as it once was. >> There was once a time when you couldn't open a podcast app without >> someone waxing lyrical about how Apple had dropped the ball in some way or >> another. >> Focusing on the iPhone so much meant the Mac suffered, and there's an >> argument that some of the macOS Ventura goings-on suggest things are >> as bad as ever - does your Mac tell you there's a new app or service >> running on every restart? >> But things aren't much better over in iOS land anymore, either. Things >> are breaking and strange decisions are being made. But I can cope with >> opinionated software development not necessarily agreeing with my >> opinion. >> What I don't like is introducing bugs for pretty vital bits of software. >> New iOS and macOS problems >> Apple's latest round of updates has been problematic. >> For example, people running macOS Ventura 13.3 and iPadOS 16.4 report >> that they can't make Continuity work anymore. Universal Control is a >> mess right now, while other Continuity-based features are also dead in the >> water. >> Copying something on a Mac and having it appear on another device when >> you paste is the thing of magic. But it doesn't work anymore. It just, >> doesn't. >> The same goes for Handoff in general and it's just bad. These are >> features that have worked for months or longer. And now they don't, >> presumably because some service deep inside macOS is broken. >> Yes, these things can happen. But we should expect better. We should >> expect software updates not to break things that were working before. >> The first rule of software updates should be that they leave devices >> in a better state than before they were installed. And that isn't what >> we're seeing. >> The Home app has gone backward in iOS 16.4, too. People say their >> accessories don't work, or work intermittently which might be even >> more infuriating. Apple has had problems with HomeKit before, and a >> new architecture seems to be causing problems all over again after it >> was pulled from iOS 16.2 for similar issues. >> We can hopefully expect these issues to be fixed in the next release, >> whenever that will arrive. >> The solution? Don't update >> So what do we do about all this? >> Unfortunately, the only thing we can do is stop installing updates >> immediately, mistakenly believing that they will make things better. >> Maybe we take a week or two to see what's going on and how other >> people fare. If things are great, great! If not, hang fire instead. >> But that right there is another problem, this time for Apple. Because >> it sometimes rolls out important security fixes that people need to >> install. >> And anything that stops them from doing that is a problem. Yes, >> Apple's Rapid Security Response system might fix that, separating >> security fixes from the main iOS updates. But people still need to >> approve them. And will they do that if the trust is gone? And who >> feels brave enough to leave automatic updates enabled? Not me. >> I used to say that the best iPhone was an updated iPhone. The same >> went for iPads, Macs, Apple Watches, and Apple TVs. 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