I use standard navigation too, and even when I make a call not in my contacts, 
I open phone, go to keypad and make the call. If I have asked Siri for the 
number though, I get Siri to make the call. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ron Canazzi
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 2:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri’s selective hearing problem still prevails at the end of the 
iOS 16 cycle

Hi Group,

I have been using the iPhone for over 4 years now and I use Siri only in a 
limited context.  While I can use the text keyboard, I am still quite slow at 
it and so I choose to use Siri for Text messages. It works quite well if you 
speak slowly--using some punctuation  and have limited background noise.

As far as phone calls, I have all important contacts: doctors, pharmacies, 
family members, friends in contact from which I use the standard navigation 
techniques to access and dial them. If I have to call someone or some business 
that is not in my contacts and I know the number, then I use Siri.

As far as opening apps, I group the ones I use the most into folder--using the 
edit method of drag and drop and placing these folders on page one of the home 
scre3en.  Again, I use standard navigation techniques to navigate quickly to 
the folders and double tap on the program name to access and initiate their 
functions.

...So am I unusual in operating this way?

On 6/12/2023 2:22 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
> I hope you all are reporting this to Apple Accessibility.
> And, perhaps, asking for a session where they share your screen and can 
> monitor what is happening and then have you send in a diagnostic report 
> during that session.
> Apple will never be able to fix things if they don't have good evidence to 
> what exactly is going on.
> accessibil...@apple.com or 877-204-3930
>
> I will get the call x person in my contacts and Siri responding with What do 
> you want to know about X person, but that is the exception and pretty seldom.
> I suspect that is a connection issue with my WiFi...
>
> HTH,
>
>   
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the 
> Universe
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 11:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Siri’s selective hearing problem still prevails at the 
> end of the iOS 16 cycle
>
> Perfect example. And I bet if I tried that on my old phone which I can’t 
> because it no longer has a Sim, it would probably work perfectly. I’m not 
> buying this business about the new tone and the delay being the cause. I 
> interact with Siri the same way all the time. So if it’s the problem with the 
> tone or the speaking delay not being long enough, I should have the problem 
> consistently. But there are certain things that it never ever gets wrong. And 
> the App Store is the most glaringly obvious one. It never misses opening the 
> App Store.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 12, 2023, at 11:08 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz <cristobalm...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Paraphrasing...
>> Me: Hey Siri, Call my wife.
>> Siri: what do you want to know about XXX
>> Me: I want to call my wife.
>> Siri: XXX's phone number is XX. Do you want to call?
>> Me: Yes, Call my wife.
>> Siri: Sorry Something went wrong.
>> I can give a myriad of other similar examples too. Siri is still hot garbage 
>> all these years later.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 10:45 AM
>> To: via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Siri’s selective hearing problem still prevails at the end 
>> of the iOS 16 cycle
>>
>> Way back at the beginning of iOS 16’s cycle, people were complaining about 
>> the new tone for Siri and about problems getting Siri to respond 
>> appropriately. I was certainly one of those people. N Now, many months 
>> later, I’m still one of those people. Certain things I can ask. Siri never 
>> screws up. Open the App Store, for instance. I don’t think it ever missed 
>> that command. But open BARD Mobile. Open the name of my credit union, and 
>> many other open commands as often as not meet with some stupidity about what 
>> it found on the web or how it doesn’t think I have such an app, even though 
>> it has opened the app many times in the past. I thought it was supposed to 
>> have some kind of on device machine learning, which would help it 
>> disambiguate things it wasn’t sure of. This must not be true, because its 
>> overall performance has maintained its low level, whereas on iOS 15, the 
>> very same Siri with the very same commands yields reasonable results almost 
>> all of the time. So, whatever Apple did in iOS 16 has not been fixed as far 
>> as I’m concerned. I can only hope they do better in iOS 17.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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