Hi:  Then report it to supp...@apple.com, they need to be aware of these problems.

Dave


On 6/12/2023 3:28 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
Hi richard,
To be honest, I have not reported to Apple Accessibility. I don’t see it as an 
accessibility problem. It’s a Siri problem having nothing at all to do with 
voiceover. So I’m not sure what good it does to report this to Apple 
accessibility. I have reported more general things in the past, and gotten a 
response that it’s not appropriate to report this here. I can’t remember what 
it was, but that’s why I never report to them unless it’s specifically can be 
tied to something having to do with voiceover.
Mary


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On Jun 12, 2023, at 11:58 AM, Ron Canazzi <aa...@roadrunner.com> wrote:

Hi Group,

I have been using the iPhone for over 4 years now and I use Siri only in a 
limited context.  While I can use the text keyboard, I am still quite slow at 
it and so I choose to use Siri for Text messages. It works quite well if you 
speak slowly--using some punctuation  and have limited background noise.

As far as phone calls, I have all important contacts: doctors, pharmacies, 
family members, friends in contact from which I use the standard navigation 
techniques to access and dial them. If I have to call someone or some business 
that is not in my contacts and I know the number, then I use Siri.

As far as opening apps, I group the ones I use the most into folder--using the 
edit method of drag and drop and placing these folders on page one of the home 
scre3en.  Again, I use standard navigation techniques to navigate quickly to 
the folders and double tap on the program name to access and initiate their 
functions.

...So am I unusual in operating this way?

On 6/12/2023 2:22 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
I hope you all are reporting this to Apple Accessibility.
And, perhaps, asking for a session where they share your screen and can monitor 
what is happening and then have you send in a diagnostic report during that 
session.
Apple will never be able to fix things if they don't have good evidence to what 
exactly is going on.
accessibil...@apple.com or 877-204-3930

I will get the call x person in my contacts and Siri responding with What do 
you want to know about X person, but that is the exception and pretty seldom.
I suspect that is a connection issue with my WiFi...

HTH,


Richard, USA.
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--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

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-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri’s selective hearing problem still prevails at the end of the 
iOS 16 cycle

Perfect example. And I bet if I tried that on my old phone which I can’t 
because it no longer has a Sim, it would probably work perfectly. I’m not 
buying this business about the new tone and the delay being the cause. I 
interact with Siri the same way all the time. So if it’s the problem with the 
tone or the speaking delay not being long enough, I should have the problem 
consistently. But there are certain things that it never ever gets wrong. And 
the App Store is the most glaringly obvious one. It never misses opening the 
App Store.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 12, 2023, at 11:08 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz <cristobalm...@gmail.com> wrote:
Paraphrasing...
Me: Hey Siri, Call my wife.
Siri: what do you want to know about XXX
Me: I want to call my wife.
Siri: XXX's phone number is XX. Do you want to call?
Me: Yes, Call my wife.
Siri: Sorry Something went wrong.
I can give a myriad of other similar examples too. Siri is still hot garbage 
all these years later.

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 10:45 AM
To: via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Siri’s selective hearing problem still prevails at the end of the iOS 
16 cycle

Way back at the beginning of iOS 16’s cycle, people were complaining about the 
new tone for Siri and about problems getting Siri to respond appropriately. I 
was certainly one of those people. N Now, many months later, I’m still one of 
those people. Certain things I can ask. Siri never screws up. Open the App 
Store, for instance. I don’t think it ever missed that command. But open BARD 
Mobile. Open the name of my credit union, and many other open commands as often 
as not meet with some stupidity about what it found on the web or how it 
doesn’t think I have such an app, even though it has opened the app many times 
in the past. I thought it was supposed to have some kind of on device machine 
learning, which would help it disambiguate things it wasn’t sure of. This must 
not be true, because its overall performance has maintained its low level, 
whereas on iOS 15, the very same Siri with the very same commands yields 
reasonable results almost all of the time. So, whatever Apple did in iOS 16 has 
not been fixed as far as I’m concerned. I can only hope they do better in iOS 
17.

Sent from my iPhone

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