I don't use Siri for much other than answering questions, like how old is Taylor Swift?
I am now text typing and today, managed to get my emoji of choice on the message. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 4:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Siri’s selective hearing problem still prevails at the end of the iOS 16 cycle I use Siri to make phone calls and that's about it. I never use it to open apps, because Siri can't close apps, just open them, so I don't see the point. I very rarely use Siri to send text messages since I have my Hable One keyboard for typing and phone navigation. I'd just use the screen for phone navigation if I didn't have my Hable. I know on which page of my phone certain apps are located, so again, iI don't need Siri. On 6/12/23, Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> wrote: > Have you run into this problem with VoiceOver off? > I report any bug I find to Apple Accessibility because I know they > actually read the messages. > > > > > Richard, USA. > “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of > little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ > John Ruskin My web site: https://www.turner42.com > > >> On Jun 12, 2023, at 12:28 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi richard, >> To be honest, I have not reported to Apple Accessibility. I don’t see >> it as an accessibility problem. It’s a Siri problem having nothing at >> all to do with voiceover. So I’m not sure what good it does to report >> this to Apple accessibility. I have reported more general things in >> the past, and gotten a response that it’s not appropriate to report >> this here. I can’t remember what it was, but that’s why I never >> report to them unless it’s specifically can be tied to something having to >> do with voiceover. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 12, 2023, at 11:58 AM, Ron Canazzi <aa...@roadrunner.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Group, >>> >>> I have been using the iPhone for over 4 years now and I use Siri >>> only in a limited context. While I can use the text keyboard, I am >>> still quite slow at it and so I choose to use Siri for Text >>> messages. It works quite well if you speak slowly--using some >>> punctuation and have limited background noise. >>> >>> As far as phone calls, I have all important contacts: doctors, >>> pharmacies, family members, friends in contact from which I use the >>> standard navigation techniques to access and dial them. If I have to >>> call someone or some business that is not in my contacts and I know >>> the number, then I use Siri. >>> >>> As far as opening apps, I group the ones I use the most into >>> folder--using the edit method of drag and drop and placing these >>> folders on page one of the home scre3en. Again, I use standard >>> navigation techniques to navigate quickly to the folders and double >>> tap on the program name to access and initiate their functions. >>> >>> ...So am I unusual in operating this way? >>> >>>>> On 6/12/2023 2:22 PM, Richard Turner wrote: >>>> I hope you all are reporting this to Apple Accessibility. >>>> And, perhaps, asking for a session where they share your screen and >>>> can monitor what is happening and then have you send in a >>>> diagnostic report during that session. >>>> Apple will never be able to fix things if they don't have good >>>> evidence to what exactly is going on. >>>> accessibil...@apple.com or 877-204-3930 >>>> >>>> I will get the call x person in my contacts and Siri responding >>>> with What do you want to know about X person, but that is the >>>> exception and pretty seldom. >>>> I suspect that is a connection issue with my WiFi... >>>> >>>> HTH, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard, USA. >>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch >>>> with it.” -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in >>>> the Universe >>>> >>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>>> Of Mary Otten >>>> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 11:11 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Siri’s selective hearing problem still prevails at the >>>> end of the iOS 16 cycle >>>> >>>> Perfect example. And I bet if I tried that on my old phone which I >>>> can’t because it no longer has a Sim, it would probably work >>>> perfectly. I’m not buying this business about the new tone and the >>>> delay being the cause. I interact with Siri the same way all the >>>> time. So if it’s the problem with the tone or the speaking delay >>>> not being long enough, I should have the problem consistently. But >>>> there are certain things that it never ever gets wrong. And the App >>>> Store is the most glaringly obvious one. It never misses opening the App >>>> Store. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>>> On Jun 12, 2023, at 11:08 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz >>>>>> <cristobalm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Paraphrasing... >>>>> Me: Hey Siri, Call my wife. >>>>> Siri: what do you want to know about XXX >>>>> Me: I want to call my wife. >>>>> Siri: XXX's phone number is XX. Do you want to call? >>>>> Me: Yes, Call my wife. >>>>> Siri: Sorry Something went wrong. >>>>> I can give a myriad of other similar examples too. Siri is still >>>>> hot garbage all these years later. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On >>>>> Behalf Of Mary Otten >>>>> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 10:45 AM >>>>> To: via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Subject: Siri’s selective hearing problem still prevails at the >>>>> end of the iOS 16 cycle >>>>> >>>>> Way back at the beginning of iOS 16’s cycle, people were >>>>> complaining about the new tone for Siri and about problems getting >>>>> Siri to respond appropriately. I was certainly one of those >>>>> people. N Now, many months later, I’m still one of those people. >>>>> Certain things I can ask. Siri never screws up. Open the App >>>>> Store, for instance. I don’t think it ever missed that command. >>>>> But open BARD Mobile. Open the name of my credit union, and many >>>>> other open commands as often as not meet with some stupidity about >>>>> what it found on the web or how it doesn’t think I have such an >>>>> app, even though it has opened the app many times in the past. I >>>>> thought it was supposed to have some kind of on device machine learning, >>>>> which would help it disambiguate things it wasn’t sure of. >>>>> This must not be true, because its overall performance has >>>>> maintained its low level, whereas on iOS 15, the very same Siri >>>>> with the very same commands yields reasonable results almost all >>>>> of the time. So, whatever Apple did in iOS 16 has not been fixed >>>>> as far as I’m concerned. 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