Hi richard, To be honest, I have not reported to Apple Accessibility. I don’t see it as an accessibility problem. It’s a Siri problem having nothing at all to do with voiceover. So I’m not sure what good it does to report this to Apple accessibility. I have reported more general things in the past, and gotten a response that it’s not appropriate to report this here. I can’t remember what it was, but that’s why I never report to them unless it’s specifically can be tied to something having to do with voiceover. Mary
Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 12, 2023, at 11:58 AM, Ron Canazzi <aa...@roadrunner.com> wrote: > > Hi Group, > > I have been using the iPhone for over 4 years now and I use Siri only in a > limited context. While I can use the text keyboard, I am still quite slow at > it and so I choose to use Siri for Text messages. It works quite well if you > speak slowly--using some punctuation and have limited background noise. > > As far as phone calls, I have all important contacts: doctors, pharmacies, > family members, friends in contact from which I use the standard navigation > techniques to access and dial them. If I have to call someone or some > business that is not in my contacts and I know the number, then I use Siri. > > As far as opening apps, I group the ones I use the most into folder--using > the edit method of drag and drop and placing these folders on page one of the > home scre3en. Again, I use standard navigation techniques to navigate > quickly to the folders and double tap on the program name to access and > initiate their functions. > > ...So am I unusual in operating this way? > >> On 6/12/2023 2:22 PM, Richard Turner wrote: >> I hope you all are reporting this to Apple Accessibility. >> And, perhaps, asking for a session where they share your screen and can >> monitor what is happening and then have you send in a diagnostic report >> during that session. >> Apple will never be able to fix things if they don't have good evidence to >> what exactly is going on. >> accessibil...@apple.com or 877-204-3930 >> >> I will get the call x person in my contacts and Siri responding with What do >> you want to know about X person, but that is the exception and pretty seldom. >> I suspect that is a connection issue with my WiFi... >> >> HTH, >> >> >> >> >> Richard, USA. >> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” >> -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe >> >> My web site: https://www.turner42.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mary >> Otten >> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 11:11 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Siri’s selective hearing problem still prevails at the end of >> the iOS 16 cycle >> >> Perfect example. And I bet if I tried that on my old phone which I can’t >> because it no longer has a Sim, it would probably work perfectly. I’m not >> buying this business about the new tone and the delay being the cause. I >> interact with Siri the same way all the time. So if it’s the problem with >> the tone or the speaking delay not being long enough, I should have the >> problem consistently. But there are certain things that it never ever gets >> wrong. And the App Store is the most glaringly obvious one. It never misses >> opening the App Store. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Jun 12, 2023, at 11:08 AM, Cristóbal Muñoz <cristobalm...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>> >>> Paraphrasing... >>> Me: Hey Siri, Call my wife. >>> Siri: what do you want to know about XXX >>> Me: I want to call my wife. >>> Siri: XXX's phone number is XX. Do you want to call? >>> Me: Yes, Call my wife. >>> Siri: Sorry Something went wrong. >>> I can give a myriad of other similar examples too. Siri is still hot >>> garbage all these years later. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mary >>> Otten >>> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 10:45 AM >>> To: via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Siri’s selective hearing problem still prevails at the end of the >>> iOS 16 cycle >>> >>> Way back at the beginning of iOS 16’s cycle, people were complaining about >>> the new tone for Siri and about problems getting Siri to respond >>> appropriately. I was certainly one of those people. N Now, many months >>> later, I’m still one of those people. Certain things I can ask. Siri never >>> screws up. Open the App Store, for instance. I don’t think it ever missed >>> that command. But open BARD Mobile. Open the name of my credit union, and >>> many other open commands as often as not meet with some stupidity about >>> what it found on the web or how it doesn’t think I have such an app, even >>> though it has opened the app many times in the past. I thought it was >>> supposed to have some kind of on device machine learning, which would help >>> it disambiguate things it wasn’t sure of. This must not be true, because >>> its overall performance has maintained its low level, whereas on iOS 15, >>> the very same Siri with the very same commands yields reasonable results >>> almost all of the time. So, whatever Apple did in iOS 16 has not been fixed >>> as far as I’m concerned. 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