Joe, My last upgrade was from a 7 to a 13 mini. You have an iPhone 11 chip inside the SE 2020. Personally, I would hold onto it until iOS support ends, likely in 2025. People get value out of their iPhones through longevity. They last a really long time. We are still in the design cycle of flat edges. Remember, more than half of the benefit of iPhones is iOS, its stability and all the features it offers. You will get iOS 17 with or without the iPhone 15.
Kelly On 9/14/23, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > I think people have to get away from the expectation that companies like > Apple are going to release these amazing new devices once a year and in fact > I think many people already are catching on to this. Of course the simple > fact Apple is releasing new models every year and are doing their best to > convince customers they have to upgrade goes against sustainability and > environmental responsibility. Yes, they may be a leader in using renewable > energy sources for their offices and putting recycled materials in their > devices, but they still have to manufacture the stuff, transport it and the > world has to deal with the electronic waste which is left behind. I think it > would be a true show of commitment if Apple had announced that in order to > cut back on all that is connected to this cycle, they are only going to > release new iPhone, Apple Watch and iPad models every two years. I think > this may result in a loss of revenue in the short term, but in the long term > may not even matter that much because a lot of people nowadays only upgrade > every 2 or 3 years or sometimes even longer. In fact, it would probably save > Apple some money and they may sell a lot more of the phone models which came > out after two years hence economies of scale would make a difference. It > would also give them more time to truly come up with new models which are > more different from the last. And now let's scale this approach up and apply > it o other manufacturers of electronics who constantly release new models > and even car manufacturers who release a new model each year. Companies and > individuals alike want to do something good for the environment, but it > stops when anybody has to maybe forgo buying something new or if something > maybe costs a bit more. Another terrible example is all the fast fashion out > there, some companies try to white wash this by pointing out that they use > recycled material, but they continue to produce cheap junk which may look > good if you wear it 2 or 3 times and after that it's designed to go into the > trash; sort of like Jack Reacher who doesn't have a home and who instead of > washing his T-Shirts, shirts and jeans throws them out when they are dirty > and buys a new set and then he claims it is cheaper. > > -----Original Message----- > From: M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> On Behalf Of M. Taylor > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 9:39 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: today's Apple Event > > Hello All, > > Well, I have truly enjoyed reading this thread. > > A special thanks to Sieghard for starting us off on this one. > > I, too, was somewhat underwhelmed by this year's keynote. If the 15 models > had offered a new version of Touch ID,I would have been all in but, as it > turns out, no Touch ID, yet again. > > While I like the idea of an action button, said button is not enough to > compel me to upgrade from my beloved 14. > > The Apple keynote presentations, without the interaction of a live audience, > are uninspiring and extremely jejune. > > While I think every one wants the world to be carbon neutral, Apple presents > its efforts as almost a filler; you know, as though they have to come up > with something to talk about between the presentations of the new devices. > Just my opinion of course. > > I love the new Roadside assistant program and the fact that triple A members > will have this service included in the normal membership fee. > > I laughed out loud at Richard's comment about the upgrades to the cameras. > Priceless, Richard, truly priceless. > > While the keynotes leave much to be desired, in my opinion, I am convinced > now, more than ever before, that Apple does produce the best Smart devices > on the market. > > I hope this finds you all doing well. > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Joshua Hendrickson > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 9:39 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: today's Apple Event > > I would certainly upgrade. I had an iPhone 8, and I upgraded to a 13 pro > max, and the improvements are very cool. The battery life is much better > and going from 256 GB to one TB is great!!! > > On 9/13/23, tai.toma...@gmail.com <tai.toma...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I definitely would. I used to have an SE 2020, and I now have an >> iPhone 14 Pro. The performance is significantly improved, and both >> performance and battery life will be much better on the 15. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >> Joe Orozco >> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 8:28 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event >> >> Would you guys upgrade to the 15 Pro if you were on an SE 2020?--Joe >> >> On 9/13/23, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@outlook.com> wrote: >>> This past summer, before going on a road trip, I got a pair of wired >>> earbuds with a lightning connector and passive noise cancellation. I >>> wanted the passive noise cancellation for the road, I wanted wired >>> ear buds, and I didn’t want to have to worry about a two inch dongle. >>> Since I’ll be holding on to my iPhone 11 for at least one more year, >>> I’m not feeling too bad about it. >>> >>> -- >>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷ >>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA >>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>> Of Sieghard Weitzel >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 5:02 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: today's Apple Event >>> >>> I don't think it matters whether you end up buying a USB-C to >>> Lightning adapter or a set of USB-C Earpods especially since the >>> Earpods if you use them as often as I do have a limited life span so >>> many who may decide to get an adapter then may get a USB-Cset of >>> Earpods when the current set breaks and then the adapter eventually >>> ends up in the landfill as well. >>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf >>> Of Alan Lemly >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 2:42 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event >>> >>> Hi Sieghard, >>> >>> Both 15 Pro models have the action button. >>> >>> And I can't argue that getting new wired Earpods with the USB C >>> connector would be more economical, just less green. >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel >>> <siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: >>> >>> I might be wrong here, but I thought only the 15 Pro Max is getting >>> the action button? >>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf >>> Of Ryan Mann >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 3:12 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event >>> >>> There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro. >>> 1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording >>> or taking a picture. >>> 2. There is a USBC port with USBC speeds. It seems that you could >>> connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds. >>> Ryan Mann >>> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist >>> rmann0...@gmail.com<mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com> >>> 386-383-5175 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik >>> <wfgal...@gmail.com<mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> Sieghard et al, >>> >>> After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub >>> is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features. I’m >>> trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone >>> 14 instead. The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher >>> resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR processing. But I have to >>> wonder just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that. >>> >>> I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I >>> will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort. I guess >>> I just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits >>> for justifying such a purchase. >>> ************ >>> - Bill from Northern Wisconsin >>> - “I think and think for months and years.” >>> - “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.” >>> - “The hundredth time I am right.” >>> Albert Einstein >>> >>> >>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel >>> <siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: >>> >>> And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of >>> a major Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from >>> the Viphone list where people discuss the latest announcement? 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