Hi Cara and Robin,
I guess for those of us who don't necessarily read the user's guide these hidden, non-Voiceover accessible features remain a mystery until somebody points them out *smile*. Thanks, Cara, for doing so. However, I agree with Robin that this should be accessible. I was just about to post a message to you, Cara, telling you that you should upgrade your app since in the new version there was no such thing as Button-Free mode. Then I thought I better make sure so I called Audible support. At first the technical support guy told me as well that he could not find it, but then he put me on hold and told me that this was there. The way to get to it is to turn Voiceover off, then do a one-finger swipe up from the bottom of the screen just above the home key towards the top. This will enable button-free mode and you can jump forward and back by doing a left to right swipe for forward and a right to left swipe for back. A vertical swipe, either up or down, will insert a bookmark. I told him that I would like him to take my feedback which he did by asking me for my Audible email so he could properly log the call and request, and I then told him to document that this is completely not accessible with Voiceover and that Voiceover users have no way to turn on Button-Free mode or to use it with Voiceover. The other big issue for me is the fact that in the Chapters and Bookmarks area, the currently playing Chapter is visually highlighted, but Voiceover gives no indication what chapter is currently playing. I will also send another email about the Button-Free mode and the fact that Voiceover should say "selected" or "Currently Playing" when you come to the chapter which is currently playing. As for Button-Free mode, I don't see why similar to how Apple solved the Notification Center activation, Audible couldn't do this so that a 3-finger swipe up would start button-free mode when Voiceover is on. Then maybe a 2-finger or 3-finger swipe left or right could be used for the Jump Forward or Jump Back command just as a 3-finger swipe changes pages when you are on the home screen. Regards, Sieghard I must be missing something here. In the new Audible update I don't see a Button Free Mode, I do remember it from the old version, but if I play a book in the new Audible app and turn Voiceover off I can swipe up or down or left or right as much as I want and nothing happens. Cara, could you tell me how you get to this Button-Free mode? Thanks, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 5:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived Hi, thanks for telling us about this. I still find it annoying to have to jump through such a hoop to accomplish that which we formerly could do with Voiceover enabled and did communicate that to them in a very respectful but firm manner. thanks for the tip though. Robin From: Cara Quinn <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 2:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived The jump forward feature exists when you use the button-free mode by turning off VO and doing a single finger swipe upward while listening to a book. In this screen you can do a left swipe (or flick) to go backward and a right swipe (or flick) to go forward. Doing a single tap anywhere on the screen will start / pause the audio and doing a vertical (up or down) flick will set a bookmark. To exit this mode, you can turn VO back on and you will find a 'Close' button in the top left corner of the screen. Double tapping this will bring you back to the normal play view. YOu can find out all about this, and more, in the user guide in 'Settings.' HTH and have a lovely evening / weekend!. Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Mar 8, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: Hi Arnold, You can actually find out what chapter is playing by double tapping on the time elapsed counter. Then flick left or right a bit and it will show you the chapter, but the readout will go away again after a while. I asked one of my employees to look at the Chapter and Bookmarks page. I was playing an audio book at the time and she said the currently playing chapter was highlighted and I am pretty sure the app could be programmed so that Voiceover would say something like "Selected" or "Currently Playing" before it reads out the chapter and time. This would be a big improvement in my view and I'll definitely write to Audible again tonight to emphasize this. As far as a Jump Forward button is concerned, it does not exist. I am not sure why they would talk about it, but it's definitely not there whether you use Voiceover or not. Regards, Sieghard From: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@ <http://googlegroups.com/> googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 4:02 PM To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived It is a crude work around, but one way you can tell what chapter you are currently playing is to set a book mark, then select the book marks button in the chapters and book marks, and go to that book mark. It will tell you what chapter you are in. And another feature I wish VoiceOver could access in the new audible app, (I hope it is simply that I don't know how to access it), is a jump forward button. I know it exists, for it talks about jump forward and back in the settings, I just think VoiceOver isn't finding it. Arnold Schmidt ----- Original Message ----- From: <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> Sieghard Weitzel To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 2:13 PM Subject: RE: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived Hi Robin, Yes, I agree, as far as I am concerned I see absolutely no improvements with this Audible update except that they added an 8 minute sleep timer. I really would like them to upgrade their sleep timer so you can set the time simply as a custom time and also that there is a subtle warning 10 or 20 seconds before the timer runs out and an easy way to reset it if you are stil l awak and hear the warning. The sleep timer app "iTired" does this beautifully, but unfortunately you can't use it with third-party apps, only the native music app. Another big thing I would like to see fixed is the fact that there is no indication in the Chapters and Bookmarks area which chapter is currently playing. If Voiceover said "Now Playinbg" or "Selected" or whatever when you come across the chapter that is playing at the time it would make it much easier to find your chapter and either double tap on the one before or the one after. I will write to Audible again with these suggestions and hope as many as possible join me in this. Regards, Sieghard From: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com[ <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 5:09 AM To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived Hi, the good news is there's an update. the bad news the two glaring accessibility issues I noted personally in version 2.0 still remain that is unless I'm just stuck on stupid and am missing something. In version 2.1 I still can't get the 2 finger gesture to activate back buttons. and I still can't fathom for the life of me why it is that the time elapsed indicator allows you to change its value by swiping or flicking upward and yet it returns to its original position when playback of a book resumes. Here's hoping in future such functionality will be restored. Robin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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