I would really like to write to the Audible developers, as well. What email address have any of you used to contact them?
Thanks, Ari On Mar 10, 2013, at 12:26 AM, "Robin Frost" <robinn...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > I know this wasn’t directed to me but thank you for your concise explanation > expounding on this topic. It’s always fun to learn from others. And if > you’ve the time feel free to join our communicating with Audible party I’ve > tried my best to communicate with them over the past two weeks regarding this > issue to what end yet remains yet to be seen but it's always more fun to have > company in such endeavors (smiles). and I’d suspect that your knowledge of > such matters could only serve to be of benefit to the efforts and their > understanding and enlightenment. > Robin > > > From: Cara Quinn > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 12:34 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Audible app update 2.1 has arrived > > Hi Sieghard, > > I hadn't seen your prior note. Did you have trouble accessing the button-free > mode from the instructions in my note? > > Anyway, yes, I absolutely agree that this should be universally discoverable > whether someone uses VO or not. > > However, from my own experience as a developer, not all VO gestures can be > captured and communicated to the app, without making some special > arrangements in such app to recreate those gestures. For example, last time > I checked, a developer couldn't actually capture a three-finger swipe upward > / downward but could capture the left / right swipes. > > So in essence, what this means is that without creating a special area on the > screen where VO lets certain gestures pass through automatically, there's no > way for an app to know what gesture a user has done. this happens because > Voiceover intercepts certain gestures before they actually reach the app. > > So while some VO gestures are easily integrated with a mainstream app, not > all gestures are. Some would take a bit of work / creativity on the part of > the developers to come up with analogs for. > > However, having said all this, I still agree with you and I'd even go further > to say that the button-free mode could be a whole lot neater in its > implementation, even for sighted users. > > The idea that you can only access the jump forward feature on one, and only > one, screen is really poor design in my opinion. Even for a sighted user, how > would you know you needed to swipe up to go into this obscure special mode so > you can use gestures to navigate your book if you wanted to?… this is sooo > not discoverable… > > Lastly, I'd also be curious to know why the scrub feature is not accessible > with VO. it's really quite maddening to deal with. Audible should definitely > be aware of this as I'm sure it's not their intention to isolate or segregate > a segment of their users… > > Anyway, thanks for your thoughtful note! > > Have a great weekend!… > > Smiles, > > Cara :) > --- > View my Online Portfolio at: > > http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn > > Follow me on Twitter! > > https://twitter.com/ModelCara > > On Mar 9, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > Hi Cara and Robin, > > I guess for those of us who don’t necessarily read the user’s guide these > hidden, non-Voiceover accessible features remain a mystery until somebody > points them out *smile*. Thanks, Cara, for doing so. > > However, I agree with Robin that this should be accessible. I was just about > to post a message to you, Cara, telling you that you should upgrade your app > since in the new version there was no such thing as Button-Free mode. Then I > thought I better make sure so I called Audible support. At first the > technical support guy told me as well that he could not find it, but then he > put me on hold and told me that this was there. The way to get to it is to > turn Voiceover off, then do a one-finger swipe up from the bottom of the > screen just above the home key towards the top. This will enable button-free > mode and you can jump forward and back by doing a left to right swipe for > forward and a right to left swipe for back. A vertical swipe, either up or > down, will insert a bookmark. > > I told him that I would like him to take my feedback which he did by asking > me for my Audible email so he could properly log the call and request, and I > then told him to document that this is completely not accessible with > Voiceover and that Voiceover users have no way to turn on Button-Free mode or > to use it with Voiceover. > The other big issue for me is the fact that in the Chapters and Bookmarks > area, the currently playing Chapter is visually highlighted, but Voiceover > gives no indication what chapter is currently playing. > > I will also send another email about the Button-Free mode and the fact that > Voiceover should say “selected” or “Currently Playing” when you come to the > chapter which is currently playing. > > As for Button-Free mode, I don’t see why similar to how Apple solved the > Notification Center activation, Audible couldn’t do this so that a 3-finger > swipe up would start button-free mode when Voiceover is on. Then maybe a > 2-finger or 3-finger swipe left or right could be used for the Jump Forward > or Jump Back command just as a 3-finger swipe changes pages when you are on > the home screen. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
