Re: What do they do???

Thu, 11 Apr 2013 14:11:05 -0700 

And my motto is don't ask if you can find the information yourself.

Fred
----- Original Message ----- From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <r...@raulgallegos.com> 
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: What do they do???



Here's my one liner for the day.
Keep asking questions. That's what the list is fore. Just don't send me a thank you on the list. <smile>. 

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On 4/11/2013 2:34 PM, Debbie Worstman wrote:
I just want to say that I do not post to the list often, but I have gotten 
some very good information from reading please don't let this make you
fearful of asking questions.
If asking questions makes the difference in someone either using there
iDevice or giving up on it then please ask away.

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Simon Wong
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 7:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What do they do???

I am new to this phone, I can I not ask questions?

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-04-11, at 10:44 AM, "Fred Olver" <goodfo...@charter.net> wrote:


Maybe they come to you because that way they don't have to do it

themselves.



----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Johnson"
<pat1...@insightbb.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:05 AM
Subject: RE: What do they do???



I do have friends who hardly will ever try to figure things out on
their own because they don't have the confidence in themselves, they
are afraid of doing something wrong.
I am not saying there is  right or wrong in any of this; I just think
those that ask should be respected and answered even if we ourselves
wish they would do their own work.
I have done a lot of stuff for people that I think they should be
able to do for themselves, yet over and over again when they need
help they come to me for it and I think to myself, they need to learn
this on their own but if they won't because they are fearful of
making a mistake, then I have to help them.
Patti






-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Fred Olver
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What do they do???

Patty, if the information is readily available, why ask the list?
Aren't we supposed to be able to do some things on our own or have we
all become so lazy that rather than find out ourselves that we must
bring it to the list because we can't take the time to find out for

ourselves?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Patti Johnson" <pat1...@insightbb.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:53 AM
Subject: RE: What do they do???



I was telling a friend about this who was thinking of subscribing to
this  list; and she said if  you're told to do your research all the
time then  what's the point of the list?
I personally don't mind answering questions, no matter how many
times the  question is asked.
Some people are new to this thing, and we don't know who is or isn't.
Or  their level of experience. Patience needs to be exercised on any
email  list,  because we don't know where the person writing in is
coming from.  Just my  humble opinion. And actually if you don't
want to answer that person on  list  write to them privately, which
would take away from the high traffic.
Patti





-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Fred Olver
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What do they do???

Thanks for your comments, I just happen to find it very irritating
that somewhat intelligent people choose not, even when they have the
information at their fingertips to find the information themselves
rather than ask on such a high-traffic list. This was as a result of
two messages in a row which asked the question of two different
app's, what does it do.

Fred
----- Original Message. In this case, there were two mesages in a
row that asked the same question, "What does it do -----
From: "Christopher Chaltain" <chalt...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: What do they do???



Well, I thought the whole thread was kind of annoying and
condescending myself, and I didn't have the patience to read it. I
doubt many of the targeted audience is going to have the patience
to read such an email let alone follow the tips tucked in it. I
also wonder how much time was spent writing and reading such a
message as opposed to just hitting the delete key when someone asks
a question you can't or don't want to answer. I find the one liners
like "What does

this app do?" or "How much does it cost?"

to be just as annoying as the next guy, but given that Raul, as the
moderator, has already done a good job trying to curb such
behavior, I don't think it's going to change human behavior much,
and I think it's best left to Raul and the moderators.

On 04/11/2013 06:40 AM, Fred Olver wrote:

Thanks, Will for bringing me a chuckle this morning. I get so
tired of folks asking what does it do when they could so easily
find out the information for themselves.
Maybe my little piece will cause them to think before postting to
the list.
Fred

    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* Wil James <mailto:w...@wilanddenise.com>
    *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
    *Sent:* Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:07 AM
    *Subject:* Re: What do they do???

    You forgot the other burning question. How much does it cost?

    Sent from Wil's iPhone 4S
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On Apr 10, 2013, at 11:47 PM, "Fred Olver" <goodfo...@charter.net 
    <mailto:goodfo...@charter.net>> wrote:
Inquiring minds want to know, what does it do? What does it do???? What does it do??? The answer is simple, in fact it is so simple 
    it's a wonder you didn't think of it yourself??? Unlike the
I-devices, there is a simple yet often-overlooked task which will 
    easily bring you the information you crave.
    What is it you say, I can't wait, please, please, tell me.
Why it's as simple as typing the name of the app in to the space 
    marked, very clearly "SEARCH" I repeat "SEARCH", easily found
Where??? Ah, yet another question and yet one which answer is not the commonly used phrase, "Over there", why it is, are you ready for this, are you sure you are ready? It is after all your waiting 
    to find an answer which has iluded mankind for hmmm maybe 20
    seconds or so, of course, in the app store. See that wasn't so
difficult, now, here are the directions. Merely double-tap on the "app store" Icon on your i-Device, wait for it to open and then, then, look down at the bottom of the page which you will come to. 
    There are five buttons labeled from left to right: "Featured",
"top Charts" "genius" "search" and last but not least "updates". 
    Now, all you have to do after tapping the "search" item, a new
    screen will appear in which you will be presented with an
on-screen keyboard, or, you can use an external keyboard, either 
    Braille or standard to gain the information you so badly crave.
    Then all you need do is enter the necessary information field
using voice, keyboard bluetooth or keyboard on the phone and tap "search" and voila, the information appears. This feature can be 
    used to find hidden apps like tap tap see, four square, or
    perhapse you want to look up 4square. Words like radio or music
    can present you with literally hundreds of functional
applications. Perhapse you long for apps which might be of use to 
    you tomorrow, Saturday, or maybe even next week.
Be sure to keep this document in case you forget what to do, lets 
    again, refresh,
    1. Find app store on your i-device
    2. Double tap to open this item.
    3. find the WORD "SEARCH" near the bottom of the screen,
    double-tap on it at which point you will be presented with an
    on-screen keyboard or you can use an external one if you wish,
    4. Type the name of what you are looking for or something like
    rpg's or text adventures or cooking or games
    5. Again, double-tap the "search" button by using a keyboard to
    input your information your choice and off you go.
    I hope this has been helpful, compared to making use of some of
the apps available for the iPhone this is truly a very easy task 
    to accomplish.
If you still do not feel you understand this task, let me know and I will indeed be glad to put together a podcast and if enough of you ask me too, I'll see about putting it up on "applevis", what 
    is that, you ask, well, that's for another night. but that's
    another message.
    Later folks.
    Happy searching.
    Fred Olver
    Thanks to Ester and Jonathon for all of your previous posts
teaching all of us what we need to know, I only hope I have come 
    close in presenting the necessary information for those who are
    having difficulty accomplishing this task.

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