I'm curious since I've never seen that info in the years I've had navigon, where are you finding that? May and Prince Noah www.canadianlynx.ca
On 2013-07-03, at 9:24 AM, Robert Fenton <robert.fen...@samobile.net> wrote: > Navigon lists several in app purchases. Item 3 in that list indicates that > for fresh XL maps for North America, the cost is $19.99. This presumably > provides maps that have additional detail as compared to the regular maps > that come with the product. > > Bob Fenton > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2013-07-03, at 7:03 AM, May and Noah <mcdonald....@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I haven't had to pay any extra fee for my updated maps with Navigon and I've >> had it for years. >> >> But again I'm not saying that either app is perfect either, just that right >> now the Seeing Eye app isn't worth the money I put out for it since my other >> apps give me the same info. >> >> May and Prince Noah >> www.canadianlynx.ca >> >> On 2013-07-03, at 8:53 AM, Robert Fenton <robert.fen...@samobile.net> wrote: >> >>> With the greatest of respect, I disagree with the note below. The seeing >>> eye application does provide additional description of intersections and >>> actually provides true turn by turn directions that are usable by a blind >>> person in a fashion that is much better than the other applications. For >>> example, if you're doing a pedestrian route with this application, you're >>> more likely to end up on the right side of the street to reach your >>> destination then you are with some of the other GPS applications. In >>> addition, if you do want to receive map updates on Navigon, You do have to >>> pay an extra fee. Thanks. >>> >>> Bob Fenton >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 2013-07-02, at 11:20 PM, May and Noah <mcdonald....@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> You need to catch up with times. The updates for maps with the breeze are >>>> free. The Breeze is a one time cost. Also, the breeze and it's counter >>>> part the mystro did not run in the same price range. >>>> >>>> >>>> The Seeing Eye App does the exact same thing as Navigon and my Breeze. My >>>> Breeze or Navigon I don't have to pay yearly for it's use or the upgrades >>>> when they happen. >>>> >>>> Yes, the Seeing Eye app is another option for people to try out and it's a >>>> valid argument for people to have in regards to the yearly price if they >>>> already have something that is a one time cost that does the same thing. >>>> >>>> For me I can say it was a waist of 70 bucks since it does what I already >>>> have. >>>> >>>> Also, the maps that the Seeing Eye is using is the same ones that the >>>> other companies use and it's also pulling info from foursquare which a lot >>>> of apps seem to be doing these days as well. So from what I've seen in >>>> looking at it from what I already have and use, it's not better, but the >>>> same. >>>> May and Prince Noah >>>> www.canadianlynx.ca >>>> >>>> On 2013-07-03, at 12:00 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>>> And your Breeze was how much? I believe $800 is about right? If you buy >>>>> the >>>>> Seeing Eye app on a 3-year subscription, that means $800 divided by $130 = >>>>> 6.15 which means I can renew my Seeing Eye subscription 6 times for the >>>>> price of the Breeze and at 3 years per renewal this means 18 years. How >>>>> likely do you think it is you get 18 years of service out of your Breeze >>>>> without updates? I used to have a Trekker Maestro and Humanware told me >>>>> map >>>>> updates were $100 back then. I wonder which company is more greedy here >>>>> and >>>>> I also wonder whether the maps on your Breeze will be as up-to-date in 3 >>>>> years as the ones the Seeing Eye app uses. >>>>> >>>>> Anyhow, I think this discussion is pretty well exhausted. I doubt any >>>>> argument will change your hostile attitude towards Sendero and while you >>>>> and >>>>> everybody else is of course entitled to their opinion, I think if you did >>>>> look at it objectively the numbers speak for themselves. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Sieghard >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>>>> Of Mary Anne Lynskey >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 8:28 PM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: The Seeing Eye app, greed, greed, greed! >>>>> >>>>> You are incorrect assuming that I bought a subscription. I downloaded the >>>>> app and when I found out how outrageous and costly it was, i certainly did >>>>> not buy a subscription. I immediately went to the rating portion and told >>>>> them how I feel. The app has been deleted from my phone. By the way, the >>>>> apps you refer to are a one time fee. I've had my Navigon for 2 years and >>>>> have only paid the cost of the app. I works just fine. A few bucks every >>>>> now >>>>> and then to upgrade the maps is reasonable, but certainly the price they >>>>> want for a yearly sub is highway robbery. I just don't have that kind of >>>>> money anyway, they wouldn't get it if I did and there are other good >>>>> alternatives. Actually, I'll stay with my Breeze and support a company >>>>> that >>>>> is not blatantly greedy. I'm glad you find the app to be a good one >>>>> because >>>>> I would hate for someone to spend that kind of money and not like it. >>>>> >>>>> Mary Anne >>>>> >>>>> On 7/2/2013 10:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>>>>> Hi Mary Anne, >>>>>> >>>>>> Let me ask you one question: If you feel this way, why did you even >>>>>> download and buy the one-year subscription to start with? It's not >>>>>> like Sendero forced you to do so. >>>>>> >>>>>> You could go and pay $59 for Navigon North America, then $15 or >>>>>> whatever it is for BlindSquare for a total of $75 and have a workable >>>>>> solution even though it wouldn't be as good as the Seeing Eye app. >>>>>> This totally reminds me about the uproar some people felt when Sendero >>>>>> dared to charge $5 for their LookAround app a few years ago, the >>>>>> outrage some people felt then I think was downright ridiculous and >>>>>> while $70 is more than $5, like I said, don't buy it if you don't want >>>>>> it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Take care, >>>>>> Sieghard >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Mary Anne Lynskey >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 6:47 PM >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: The Seeing Eye app, greed, greed, greed! >>>>>> >>>>>> I think it's a disgrace and a total rip off. Not even a trial? Even >>>>>> so, it's too expensive and nothing but outright greediness. I've >>>>>> already written this as a rating for the app, adding that it's nothing >>>>>> less than a case of total greed, greed, greed, taking advantage of >>>>>> blind people and stealing money out of their pockets. Sixty-nine bucks >>>>>> a year, that is outrageous! What a cocky attitude for Sendero to >>>>>> adopt. who do they think they are anyway? I couldn't even rate it zero >>>>>> stars and I begrudgingly gave them one just to speak my mind. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mary Anne Lynskey >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 7/2/2013 2:28 PM, Chuck Dean wrote: >>>>>>> At this time, they are only offering a one year, and a three-year >>>>>> subscription. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chuck (mobile) >>>>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 2, 2013, at 11:25 AM, dan Thompson <dthomps...@mchsi.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi chuck, can one buy a lifetime membership or do we have to keep >>>>>>>> paying for rights to use the app? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To receive emails regarding Dan's daily Tips or the Daily HotSpot >>>>>>>> Devotional, send an email to dthomps...@mchsi.com with "subscribe Dan's >>>>>>>> Tips" or "subscribe Hotspot Devotional" in the subjectline. of your >>>>>> truth >>>>>>>> and live according to your word". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Verse of the Week >>>>>>>> Proverbs 18:10 >>>>>>>> The name of the LORD is a strong tower; the righteous man runs into >>>>>>>> it and is safe. (ESV) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Prayer: "O gracious and Holy Father, give us wisdom to perceive >>>>>>>> you, diligence to seek you, patience to wait for you, eyes to behold >>>>>>>> you, a heart to meditate upon you, and a life to proclaim you; >>>>>>>> through the power of the Spirit of Jesus Christ our Lord." (Prayer >>>>>>>> of Saint Benedict of Nursia, >>>>>>>> 480-547 AD) >>>>>>>> Psalm 23:1-6 >>>>>>>> 1 The LORD is my shepherd, I shall not want; >>>>>>>> 2 he makes me lie down in green pastures. He leads me beside still >>>>>>>> waters; >>>>>>>> 3 he restores my soul. He leads me in paths of righteousness for his >>>>>>>> name's sake. >>>>>>>> 4 Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I >>>>>>>> fear no evil; for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they >>>>>>>> comfort me. >>>>>>>> 5 You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies; you >>>>>>>> anoint my >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> head with oil, my cup overflows. >>>>>>>> 6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life; >>>>>>>> and I shall dwell in the house of the LORD for ever. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Psalm 19:8-11 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Chuck Dean >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 1:07 PM >>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> Subject: The Seeing Eye app, a quick test. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all, I took the Seeing Eye GPS app for a quick walk around my >>>>>>>> neighborhood to see how well it performed. I walked about one mile, >>>>>>>> and took a different route back. It worked well, although like most >>>>>>>> GPS apps it seemed to use a lot of battery, over twenty percent in >>>>>>>> the >>>>>> one mile walk. >>>>>>>> The interface of the app is simple and easy to understand. Entering >>>>>>>> an address is made easy because the state and city you are in are >>>>>>>> already entered, so only the address number and street need to be >>>>>>>> entered. If you are going to another city, however, you will need to >>>>>>>> change that field. I started by searching for a point of intrest and >>>>>>>> starting a route. The app uses voice over for most of the >>>>>>>> announcements, but does have another voice that chimes in >>>>>>>> occasionally. The directions were clear and given with ample lead >>>>>>>> time. As I approached intersections it would announce the street >>>>>>>> name and the intersection type, I. E. Fore way, and the street >>>>> direction. >>>>>> Also, as I walked the app announced points of intrest as I passed by. >>>>>>>> On the way back, I tried the route to home option, which opened a >>>>>>>> drop down menu with various options including one that is poorly >>>>>>>> labeled. My wife told me it said multi modal, which voice over >>>>>>>> didn't understand, so I relabeled this button multi mode. >>>>>>>> Over all I think this is a great start, but there are a few things >>>>>>>> I'd like to see in the future. I'd like to see the ability to walk a >>>>>>>> virtual route, as I was able to do with my human ware Trekker.. >>>>>>>> After taxes the one year subscription cost over seventy five dollars. >>>>>>>> It sounds like a lot, but considering my old Trekker was fifteen >>>>>>>> hundred dollars seven years ago, it doesn't seem too expensive. >>>>>>>> If you figure it out, it comes to about twenty one cents a day for >>>>>>>> the one year subscription. 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