One correction, if you want to receive frequent map updates from Navigon, you need to pay a fee. However, if you are happy with quarterly updates, there is no extra fee.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 04/07/2013, at 0:53, Robert Fenton <robert.fen...@samobile.net> wrote: > With the greatest of respect, I disagree with the note below. The seeing eye > application does provide additional description of intersections and actually > provides true turn by turn directions that are usable by a blind person in a > fashion that is much better than the other applications. For example, if > you're doing a pedestrian route with this application, you're more likely to > end up on the right side of the street to reach your destination then you are > with some of the other GPS applications. In addition, if you do want to > receive map updates on Navigon, You do have to pay an extra fee. Thanks. > > Bob Fenton > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2013-07-02, at 11:20 PM, May and Noah <mcdonald....@gmail.com> wrote: > >> You need to catch up with times. The updates for maps with the breeze are >> free. The Breeze is a one time cost. Also, the breeze and it's counter part >> the mystro did not run in the same price range. >> >> >> The Seeing Eye App does the exact same thing as Navigon and my Breeze. My >> Breeze or Navigon I don't have to pay yearly for it's use or the upgrades >> when they happen. >> >> Yes, the Seeing Eye app is another option for people to try out and it's a >> valid argument for people to have in regards to the yearly price if they >> already have something that is a one time cost that does the same thing. >> >> For me I can say it was a waist of 70 bucks since it does what I already >> have. >> >> Also, the maps that the Seeing Eye is using is the same ones that the other >> companies use and it's also pulling info from foursquare which a lot of apps >> seem to be doing these days as well. So from what I've seen in looking at it >> from what I already have and use, it's not better, but the same. >> May and Prince Noah >> www.canadianlynx.ca >> >> On 2013-07-03, at 12:00 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >> >>> And your Breeze was how much? I believe $800 is about right? If you buy the >>> Seeing Eye app on a 3-year subscription, that means $800 divided by $130 = >>> 6.15 which means I can renew my Seeing Eye subscription 6 times for the >>> price of the Breeze and at 3 years per renewal this means 18 years. How >>> likely do you think it is you get 18 years of service out of your Breeze >>> without updates? I used to have a Trekker Maestro and Humanware told me map >>> updates were $100 back then. I wonder which company is more greedy here and >>> I also wonder whether the maps on your Breeze will be as up-to-date in 3 >>> years as the ones the Seeing Eye app uses. >>> >>> Anyhow, I think this discussion is pretty well exhausted. I doubt any >>> argument will change your hostile attitude towards Sendero and while you and >>> everybody else is of course entitled to their opinion, I think if you did >>> look at it objectively the numbers speak for themselves. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of Mary Anne Lynskey >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 8:28 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: The Seeing Eye app, greed, greed, greed! >>> >>> You are incorrect assuming that I bought a subscription. I downloaded the >>> app and when I found out how outrageous and costly it was, i certainly did >>> not buy a subscription. I immediately went to the rating portion and told >>> them how I feel. The app has been deleted from my phone. By the way, the >>> apps you refer to are a one time fee. I've had my Navigon for 2 years and >>> have only paid the cost of the app. I works just fine. A few bucks every now >>> and then to upgrade the maps is reasonable, but certainly the price they >>> want for a yearly sub is highway robbery. I just don't have that kind of >>> money anyway, they wouldn't get it if I did and there are other good >>> alternatives. Actually, I'll stay with my Breeze and support a company that >>> is not blatantly greedy. I'm glad you find the app to be a good one because >>> I would hate for someone to spend that kind of money and not like it. >>> >>> Mary Anne >>> >>> On 7/2/2013 10:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>>> Hi Mary Anne, >>>> >>>> Let me ask you one question: If you feel this way, why did you even >>>> download and buy the one-year subscription to start with? It's not >>>> like Sendero forced you to do so. >>>> >>>> You could go and pay $59 for Navigon North America, then $15 or >>>> whatever it is for BlindSquare for a total of $75 and have a workable >>>> solution even though it wouldn't be as good as the Seeing Eye app. >>>> This totally reminds me about the uproar some people felt when Sendero >>>> dared to charge $5 for their LookAround app a few years ago, the >>>> outrage some people felt then I think was downright ridiculous and >>>> while $70 is more than $5, like I said, don't buy it if you don't want it. >>>> >>>> >>>> Take care, >>>> Sieghard >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>> Behalf Of Mary Anne Lynskey >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 6:47 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: The Seeing Eye app, greed, greed, greed! >>>> >>>> I think it's a disgrace and a total rip off. Not even a trial? Even >>>> so, it's too expensive and nothing but outright greediness. I've >>>> already written this as a rating for the app, adding that it's nothing >>>> less than a case of total greed, greed, greed, taking advantage of >>>> blind people and stealing money out of their pockets. Sixty-nine bucks >>>> a year, that is outrageous! What a cocky attitude for Sendero to >>>> adopt. who do they think they are anyway? I couldn't even rate it zero >>>> stars and I begrudgingly gave them one just to speak my mind. >>>> >>>> Mary Anne Lynskey >>>> >>>> >>>> On 7/2/2013 2:28 PM, Chuck Dean wrote: >>>>> At this time, they are only offering a one year, and a three-year >>>> subscription. >>>>> >>>>> Chuck (mobile) >>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores. >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 2, 2013, at 11:25 AM, dan Thompson <dthomps...@mchsi.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi chuck, can one buy a lifetime membership or do we have to keep >>>>>> paying for rights to use the app? >>>>>> >>>>>> To receive emails regarding Dan's daily Tips or the Daily HotSpot >>>>>> Devotional, send an email to dthomps...@mchsi.com with "subscribe Dan's >>>>>> Tips" or "subscribe Hotspot Devotional" in the subjectline. of your >>>> truth >>>>>> and live according to your word". >>>>>> >>>>>> Verse of the Week >>>>>> Proverbs 18:10 >>>>>> The name of the LORD is a strong tower; the righteous man runs into >>>>>> it and is safe. (ESV) >>>>>> >>>>>> Prayer: "O gracious and Holy Father, give us wisdom to perceive >>>>>> you, diligence to seek you, patience to wait for you, eyes to behold >>>>>> you, a heart to meditate upon you, and a life to proclaim you; >>>>>> through the power of the Spirit of Jesus Christ our Lord." (Prayer >>>>>> of Saint Benedict of Nursia, >>>>>> 480-547 AD) >>>>>> Psalm 23:1-6 >>>>>> 1 The LORD is my shepherd, I shall not want; >>>>>> 2 he makes me lie down in green pastures. He leads me beside still >>>>>> waters; >>>>>> 3 he restores my soul. He leads me in paths of righteousness for his >>>>>> name's sake. >>>>>> 4 Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I >>>>>> fear no evil; for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they >>>>>> comfort me. >>>>>> 5 You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies; you >>>>>> anoint my >>>>>> >>>>>> head with oil, my cup overflows. >>>>>> 6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life; >>>>>> and I shall dwell in the house of the LORD for ever. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Psalm 19:8-11 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Chuck Dean >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 1:07 PM >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: The Seeing Eye app, a quick test. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, I took the Seeing Eye GPS app for a quick walk around my >>>>>> neighborhood to see how well it performed. I walked about one mile, >>>>>> and took a different route back. It worked well, although like most >>>>>> GPS apps it seemed to use a lot of battery, over twenty percent in >>>>>> the >>>> one mile walk. >>>>>> The interface of the app is simple and easy to understand. Entering >>>>>> an address is made easy because the state and city you are in are >>>>>> already entered, so only the address number and street need to be >>>>>> entered. If you are going to another city, however, you will need to >>>>>> change that field. I started by searching for a point of intrest and >>>>>> starting a route. The app uses voice over for most of the >>>>>> announcements, but does have another voice that chimes in >>>>>> occasionally. The directions were clear and given with ample lead >>>>>> time. As I approached intersections it would announce the street >>>>>> name and the intersection type, I. E. Fore way, and the street >>> direction. >>>> Also, as I walked the app announced points of intrest as I passed by. >>>>>> On the way back, I tried the route to home option, which opened a >>>>>> drop down menu with various options including one that is poorly >>>>>> labeled. My wife told me it said multi modal, which voice over >>>>>> didn't understand, so I relabeled this button multi mode. >>>>>> Over all I think this is a great start, but there are a few things >>>>>> I'd like to see in the future. I'd like to see the ability to walk a >>>>>> virtual route, as I was able to do with my human ware Trekker.. >>>>>> After taxes the one year subscription cost over seventy five dollars. >>>>>> It sounds like a lot, but considering my old Trekker was fifteen >>>>>> hundred dollars seven years ago, it doesn't seem too expensive. >>>>>> If you figure it out, it comes to about twenty one cents a day for >>>>>> the one year subscription. 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