I've been told by multiple people, both AT&T users and customer support, that AT&T can detect when your SIM card is in a smart phone and will automatically charge you for a data plan if you don't have a data plan but put your SIM card in a smart phone. If this is true, buying your unlocked iPhone from Apple and trying to use it on AT&T will not get you out of having a data plan. Ive never tried this myself, but like I said, I know people who have told me this has happened to them. Maybe this is wrong and maybe there are carriers and plans where this is not the case.

On 07/13/2013 05:09 PM, Aman Singer wrote:
Hi, Alan.
Keep in mind that Apple sells the iPhone unlocked in almost all
countries. If you want an iPhone without a contract and can pay for
it, there is no issue in getting one. You need not buy it from a phone
company at all unless you want it subsidized.
Aman

On 7/13/13, Alan Paganelli <alanandsuza...@earthlink.net> wrote:
When I got my iPhone 4, I asked AT&T about that.  They said to get the
subsidised phone, they require a talk, text, and data plan with a two year
agreement.  For most people buying their own first iPhone, I wonder how many
actually get to skimp and not have a 2 year plan at a reduced price.
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   From: Aman Singer
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 1:55 PM
   Subject: Re: using iphone without a data plan


   Hi, Alan and all.
   Alan writes:
   No matter what carrier your using, AT&T, Sprint, etc, you need a talk,
   text, and data plan.  It's that simple.

   I'm sorry to contradict, Alan, but this is not accurate. It is
   certainly not accurate when it comes to AT&T and other GSM carriers.
   Without a contract, one can use a data only plan, a voice only plan,
   and even a text only plan on a GSM phone including the iPhone. This is
   actually fairly simple, the worst case is that one needs to cut a SIM
   card to do it, and cutting SIM cards is not at all ddifficult. Even
   that is not usually necessary. As Donald has told us, even CDMA
   iPhones can be used with voice only plans through other providers. One
   need not buy any particular plan with any particular phone unless one
   is on contract or one is using a CDMA phone with a provider that
   enforces its own rules. Cellular providers would like you to think you
   need to buy a voice/data plan at least, but you don't.
   Aman

   On 7/13/13, Alan Paganelli <alanandsuza...@earthlink.net> wrote:
   > No matter what carrier your using, AT&T, Sprint, etc, you need a talk,
text,
   > and data plan.  It's that simple.  One way that you could help yourself
   > would be to ditch your home internet connection as you can send more
email
   > then anybody could possibly want in a month with the standard 2 GB worth
of
   > data.
   >
   > I know allot of folks get scared at the thought of using their phone
for
   > their internet connection, texting etc.  With the edition of a
Bluetooth
   > wireless keyboard you can do email about as easily as you could on your
   > desktop.
   >
   > When I first got my iPhone over 2 years ago, I too was concerned about
all
   > that money out the door but with the sails of desktops and laptops
slowing
   > more and more, the hand writing for the future is already on the wall.
   > People just aren't interested.  Once you get use to pulling your phone
out
   > rather then your laptop, you'll be telling those who come behind you
the
   > same thing.
   >
   > All the best to you.to
   >   ----- Original Message -----
   >   From: Pinky
   >   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   >   Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 6:01 PM
   >   Subject: using iphone without a data plan
   >
   >
   >   Hello list,
   >
   >   I have spoken to three Verizon stores regarding having a n iphone
   > connected with just a phone and not the data.  All three places informed
me
   > I could not have the iphone connected without having a data plan.  This
is
   > an Iphone I will own without any plan or contract.  Can anyone advise me
if
   > this is true or not.  I did also asked at one Verizon place if I have my
own
   > iphone that is unlocked can I just have the phone service.  I was told
I
   > could not have the phone service without the data plan.  I already have
   > phone service with Verizon.  I did see earlier on this list that
someone
   > stated that you could just have the phone service.  Any assistance on
this
   > matter would be greatly appreciated.
   >   Ed
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