Ok, it is your right. You want a nice area, a secure area, you want alarm systems that protect your home. It is cool. But It is your right, not your obligation. My right is to use my iPhone how I bought it, but that you call your choice to get a nice security, is no a right, it is a command. Command that brings a lot of bugs, make my Home so tight and unconftable, so now I have to be in my own hhome. So you can do what ever you want with your home, also I have the same right, You want better security. I want my home as I found it when I bought it. One thing is a command, another thing is a right.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Chaltain" <chalt...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations


Well, I think it's a bad analogy. I think a better analogy is that I
want to buy a home in a maintained community where I don't have to worry
about security or maintenance. The community will keep my walls fresh
and clean. My carpeting will be replaced for me on a regular basis. My
lawn will be mowed and trimmed for me. Now to save costs and make sure
all of the houses in the community look as nice as possible, I don't get
to choose exactly when my home will be painted or the carpeting
replaced, and I have limited choices of colors. I'm OK if the
maintenance crew needs to keep some paint and supplies in one of my closets.

On 10/04/2013 02:40 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:
Wow, this issue made me think about a situation very similar. For
example, I have a little home, One bed room, one bathroom, a little
kitchen and a little living room together. Even though, it is my home, I
am the owner of my great home. I clean and put my home nice every day. I
had to work very hard to buy this little home, and I love my home. even
though, one day, The god apple said.
Every body has to paint their homes of red, and I think, oh no, I don't
like the red color, no for my walls, it is a very stressful color, and I
said no. But God apple sent a group of solders to my home, and they
broke my door, and put in my bathroom, the gallons of paint, red paint,
brushes, and steps, the whole tools to paint my home. Now I got my
bathroom full of things that I don't want to use, but I am not able to
take this things out of my home.
The only way that I have to do it, is paint my home of red, and no
matter if I don't like this color, no matter if this color doesn't match
with my furniture's, no matter if this color make me stressed.
Do you think that is fir?
do you think that is legal?
I don't see it legal, and I don't see it fir.

    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
    *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
    *Sent:* Friday, October 04, 2013 3:28 PM
    *Subject:* Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations

    Hello,

    Jonathan as always explains things like nobody else and I do agree
    that the automatic downloading of iOS 7 is maybe not something Apple
    should force on people even though it is also not new since they did
    the same with iOS 5 and iOS 6.

    Here is a point, though, which I wonder about:

    People mostly complain that on something like a 16 Gb phone this
    update takes up a lot of space and I would agree that it does. If
    you only have maybe 3 or 4 Gb free space and this is almost 3 Gb it
    doesn’t leave you with much. If you use a 16 Gb phone but you don’t
    really fill your device with music and only use storage space for
    some apps, maybe a few books or pictures, then you probably have at
    least 6 or 8 Gb free space in which case it’s a mute point if half
    of that space is used up by the update since chances are you won’t
    run out of space.

    If your phone is so full that maybe you only have 1 Gb free I wonder
    what happens then. I somehow doubt Apple randomly can delete stuff
    from your phone to make room for the update, it is my guess that if
    you went to Software Update in General Settings it would have an
    “Download and Install” option since it could not download the update
    and if you tried it you would be informed that there wasn’t enough
    space. At that point you would have to take off (un-sync) some
    music, pictures, books or apps depending on what you have on your
    phone to fill it up should you want to install the update,
    afterwards you could resync that content.

    So, maybe this is something to remember next year as a work-around.
    If you have a 16 Gb device and don’t want a new iOS update to
    download, simply make sure you fill your device with content and
    only leave maybe less than 2 Gb free for use, this way there is not
    enough space for the update to download and you are good to go. If
    you have 5, 6 or 8 Gb of free space or even more then having the
    just under 3 Gb download sitting on your device is a mute point.
    Should people have to do this? No, probably not, I think Apple
    should put something into the Settings which just as you can turn
    off automatic app updates allows you to turn off automatic iOS
    update downloads. They could even have this set to On by default
    since then it’s up to each person who cares enough to not want this
    to turn it off.

    Regards,

    Sieghard

    a quarter or and have a smaller

    First, it is my understanding that this only downloads via

is a point, though, regarding space. People complain that if they have .

    OK,

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