Hi Chris, All analogies aside, I must say that while I personally am not experiencing any showstoppers with iOS 7, I think being able to downgrade, or at least disable the automatic download, is a pretty reasonable request. I personally agree with Jonathan's post and don't see why listers object to that request. A sighted family member has an iPhone 4 with iOS 7 and when I turn on VO to help them, I definitely notice a lot of sluggishness.
In the past Microsoft has been chastised for automatically installing updates to the Windows update engine itself without a user's consent. So I don't think Pablo's request is out of the ordinary by any means. Grant -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: October 4, 2013 1:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations Well, I think it's a bad analogy. I think a better analogy is that I want to buy a home in a maintained community where I don't have to worry about security or maintenance. The community will keep my walls fresh and clean. My carpeting will be replaced for me on a regular basis. My lawn will be mowed and trimmed for me. Now to save costs and make sure all of the houses in the community look as nice as possible, I don't get to choose exactly when my home will be painted or the carpeting replaced, and I have limited choices of colors. I'm OK if the maintenance crew needs to keep some paint and supplies in one of my closets. On 10/04/2013 02:40 PM, Pablo Morales wrote: > Wow, this issue made me think about a situation very similar. For > example, I have a little home, One bed room, one bathroom, a little > kitchen and a little living room together. Even though, it is my home, > I am the owner of my great home. I clean and put my home nice every > day. I had to work very hard to buy this little home, and I love my > home. even though, one day, The god apple said. > Every body has to paint their homes of red, and I think, oh no, I > don't like the red color, no for my walls, it is a very stressful > color, and I said no. But God apple sent a group of solders to my > home, and they broke my door, and put in my bathroom, the gallons of > paint, red paint, brushes, and steps, the whole tools to paint my > home. Now I got my bathroom full of things that I don't want to use, > but I am not able to take this things out of my home. > The only way that I have to do it, is paint my home of red, and no > matter if I don't like this color, no matter if this color doesn't > match with my furniture's, no matter if this color make me stressed. > Do you think that is fir? > do you think that is legal? > I don't see it legal, and I don't see it fir. > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > *Sent:* Friday, October 04, 2013 3:28 PM > *Subject:* Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations > > Hello, > > Jonathan as always explains things like nobody else and I do agree > that the automatic downloading of iOS 7 is maybe not something Apple > should force on people even though it is also not new since they did > the same with iOS 5 and iOS 6. > > Here is a point, though, which I wonder about: > > People mostly complain that on something like a 16 Gb phone this > update takes up a lot of space and I would agree that it does. If > you only have maybe 3 or 4 Gb free space and this is almost 3 Gb it > doesn't leave you with much. If you use a 16 Gb phone but you don't > really fill your device with music and only use storage space for > some apps, maybe a few books or pictures, then you probably have at > least 6 or 8 Gb free space in which case it's a mute point if half > of that space is used up by the update since chances are you won't > run out of space. > > If your phone is so full that maybe you only have 1 Gb free I wonder > what happens then. I somehow doubt Apple randomly can delete stuff > from your phone to make room for the update, it is my guess that if > you went to Software Update in General Settings it would have an > "Download and Install" option since it could not download the update > and if you tried it you would be informed that there wasn't enough > space. At that point you would have to take off (un-sync) some > music, pictures, books or apps depending on what you have on your > phone to fill it up should you want to install the update, > afterwards you could resync that content. > > So, maybe this is something to remember next year as a work-around. > If you have a 16 Gb device and don't want a new iOS update to > download, simply make sure you fill your device with content and > only leave maybe less than 2 Gb free for use, this way there is not > enough space for the update to download and you are good to go. If > you have 5, 6 or 8 Gb of free space or even more then having the > just under 3 Gb download sitting on your device is a mute point. > Should people have to do this? No, probably not, I think Apple > should put something into the Settings which just as you can turn > off automatic app updates allows you to turn off automatic iOS > update downloads. They could even have this set to On by default > since then it's up to each person who cares enough to not want this > to turn it off. > > Regards, > > Sieghard > > a quarter or and have a smaller > > First, it is my understanding that this only downloads via > > is a point, though, regarding space. 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