Hi, First, since I’m running an iPhone 5, and its 32GB, this doesn’t really affect me. But, if I was running an iPhone 4, with 16 or even 8GB, I think this would really piss me off. And not to mention the space taken up by a download you don’t want, and had no choice in declining, your only option is to then install to free up the space to an OS which the hardware is under powered to use smoothly. I think this is really the point of Pablo’s frustration. He was in a total lose lose situation. Have a big chunk of space taken up by an update, or, install the update and have your phone sluggish as all hell. I’m just curious, are any of you guys running an iPhone 4? I bet you aren’t. lol. If so, I think you would be singing a slightly different tune.
JMO. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 4, 2013, at 11:21 AM, John Diakogeorgiou <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com> wrote: > Raul very well put. Yes Apple has downloaded software to your phone. > Whether we agree with this or not I would be willing to bet lots of > money that everyone agreed to this when they clicked I Agree at the > time of installing software. Also as I and others have stated before a > phone will not be upgraded unless you agree to the terms by tapping > agree. > The best suggestion I can give to someone if you don't like change or > don't want to deal with bugs don't install a software package till > others who are willing to deal with these issues have tested it and > say it has no bugs. > > On 10/4/13, Alan Paganelli <alanandsuza...@earthlink.net> wrote: >> I find that really hard to believe that for no apparent reason and by no >> action taken on your part that iOS 7 just started downloading and installing >> >> on your iPhone. Before the installation can happen, you would have to agree >> >> to the terms and conditions first. Are you sure that you didn't start it >> yourself? Even accidentally? >> ------- >> >> Regards, >> >> Alan >> >> Go Chicago Bears in 2013! >> >> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now!!!!! >> Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. >> >> Please click on: >> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ >> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on >> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my >> >> website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pablo Morales" <pablomorale...@gmail.com> >> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 1:43 AM >> Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 >> >> holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. >> >> >> Well, it could be ridiculous for you. Even though, when I see that the IOs >> is downloaded automatically to my iPhone, without my agreement, and it is >> filling space in my iPhone, and is no way to remove that information >> stored >> in my iPhone, I don't see so ridiculous my email. Either apple. >> When an IOs update appear, every body is looking for improvements in the >> operated system, we are not looking for bugs, or steps back in our devices. >> So I don't see so ridiculous my email. Less when the apple devices are the >> more expensive devices, no when apple is a company that sales iDevices for >> a >> price that for the most part of the people on the world, are impossible. >> When you say that apple give us the right to use their software, but at the >> same time they are storing data in my iPhone with out my permission, and >> the >> only way to make that space free is installing the IOs 7, is not a freedom, >> it is not a right the god apple gives to us. This is a command from apple. >> so I don't see so ridiculous my email. >> when we install a new IOs, every body is waiting improvements, not bugs, >> and >> not bunches of bugs as IOs 7 has. Even though, as you say, apple give us >> the right to use their software, thing that is not a right, it is a >> command, >> but their software is not working well, but we are not able to go back to >> the IOs that was working better, it is a right? >> No, it is not a right, it is a command.So, I don't see my email, ridiculous >> . >> Do not forget something. The device that you use, wasn't free. You paid for >> that, and you paid money that is not a little bit of money, it was money >> that could be the payment for a whole year of work in many countries on >> the world. Money that you paid, and it is money that you paid because you >> were buying a good device. No a cheaper device. >> So, I don't see my email as you said. ridiculous . >> But let me tell you in my opinion what is ridiculous . >> ridiculous is when we pay to a company that created a good software, a >> good >> hardware, hardware and software that made a difference in your life. But >> later they changed the software, and you start to get problems with many >> things in your device, but you fill ok, because every IOs bring bugs. It is >> ridiculous , because you didn't pay with money cracked, you didn't paid it >> with a check without funds, you paid it with money, good money. >> What right are you talking about. They installed the data in my iPhone, >> without my agreement, they offert a good IOs, but it brings a lot of bugs, >> and they don't allow us to come back to the software that they created, >> that >> works better is a right? >> No, it is not a right. >>> On Oct 3, 2013, at 10:02 PM, John Diakogeorgiou <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Pablo your email is ridiculous. first of all no one said you had to >>> update your software. That was your choice. Second of all you don't >>> own the software you own the phone and Apple is giving you the right >>> to use their software. The software works quite well. Yes a few bugs >>> exist but you should have been aware of them when you chose to use the >>> software. >>> >>>> On 10/3/13, Alan Paganelli <alanandsuza...@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>> So is it running slow on the 5s as well? >>>> ------- >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Alan >>>> >>>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013! >>>> >>>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now!!!!! >>>> Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. >>>> >>>> Please click on: >>>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ >>>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played >>>> >>>> on >>>> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on >>>> >>>> my >>>> >>>> website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Ricardo Walker" <rwalker...@gmail.com> >>>> To: "viphone" <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:44 PM >>>> Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS >>>> >>>> 6 >>>> >>>> holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I haven’t seen apps take 5 seconds to open on an iPhone 4S using IOS 7. >>>> Is >>>> >>>> it slower than my iPhone 5? Yes. But, I think 5 seconds to open most >>>> apps >>>> >>>> is a bit of an exaggeration. Sure, some apps might take a while, the >>>> more >>>> resource intensive ones, but, definitely not the majority of apps. >>>> >>>> JMO. >>>> >>>> Ricardo Walker >>>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>> >>>>> On Oct 2, 2013, at 7:01 PM, Pablo Morales <pablomorale...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Also, 5 seconds is too much. We have to use the iPhone when we are on >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>> streets, when we are going to the store, when we get a ride, and we >>>>> need >>>>> the gps, So 5 seconds is too much. Now, if in the newer versions of >>>>> iPhone takes around 2 seconds, I would like to know, why? >>>>> The new things of IOs 7 is enough to make slower the phones? >>>>> maybe the graphic appearance? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Troy Sullivan" >>>>> <troysulliva...@gmail.com> >>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:40 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing >>>>> iOS >>>>> >>>>> 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On my 4s, I notice apps take about 5 seconds to load, not right away, >>>>>> it >>>>>> >>>>>> could be because I have an older phone though. I'm not able to upgrade >>>>>> without a discount until 2015 though so I will deal. >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris H" >>>>>> <christopher...@gmail.com> >>>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 2:03 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing >>>>>> iOS >>>>>> >>>>>> 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Agreed. Apps took under five seconds to load on a 4, but under two on >>>>>>> >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4s. So over half the time is cut between each phone. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> E-mail Facebook and iMessage >>>>>>> christopher...@gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 02/10/2013 13:47, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: >>>>>>>> Apps are taking up to 50 seconds to start running? Hmm, that sounds >>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>> you need to restore and start over. Even if iOS runs slower on older >>>>>>>> phones, apps won't take 50 seconds to start up. i just can't buy >>>>>>>> that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Raul A. Gallegos >>>>>>>> Oh I'm not arguing, I'm simply explaining why I'm right. - Sheldon >>>>>>>> Cooper >>>>>>>> Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 9/30/2013 10:25 AM, Pablo Morales wrote: >>>>>>>>> Yes, IOs 7 is good running on new devices like iPhone 4s, 5 and >>>>>>>>> 5s, >>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>> this new IOs make slower the iPhone 4, and is very annoying try to >>>>>>>>> run >>>>>>>>> what ever app when voice over works so slow, when what ever app >>>>>>>>> takes >>>>>>>>> until 50 seconds to start opening, and when we have to try and try >>>>>>>>> several times to run an app. Is obvious that IOs 7 is heavy for the >>>>>>>>> processor that the iPhone 4 has, so make an update of operated >>>>>>>>> system >>>>>>>>> will be good for the users who has iDevices with processors >>>>>>>>> relative >>>>>>>>> new, but not every body is in position of go to buy an iPhone 5s, >>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>> pay >>>>>>>>> around 800$ every years when ever apple create an new device. 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