I agree with all of these points. I'd have no problem plunking down the $99 if the app is really as impressive as the demos show, but the deal breaker for me would be the lack of no demo. There's no way I'd pay that kind of money without the ability to try it first somehow.
Best regards, Rick Alfaro From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karl Smith Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 12:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: KNFB Reader App Hello Sieghard, I appreciate your common sense approach to all this talk. The world has really changed when someone on this list says that $99 is an astronomical price. I'm not saying it isn't higher than other apps but no one will hold a gun to anyone's head to buy it. I was at both presentations and they were impressive. I should also say that I went out and bought Prizmo just to have something to compare it to when the time comes. So far Prizmo seems quite a bit more clumsy and slow. Is it $90 slower? I haven't decided yet, perhaps it's my inexperience. I am also curious to know how many of the people complaining so loudly about the $99 have traded in their iPhone 4, 4s, 5, to get to a 5s and happily paid the price each year or so for upgrades that are at best incremental. I'm not picking on anyone about this as I am a gadget geek myself although I still have a 4s as I haven't been dazzled by the 5 or 5s. We will see what the 6 does. In any event, let's let them get the app out, and I too hope for a demo version, and then see how it goes. If it proves to be a good product with value equal to its price than fine. If not then it won't. I can tell you I never thought in my life time we would be debating over a reading machine as fast and accurate and small as this one is calling its $99 price tag astronomical. Seems like a very small universe to me. Karl __________ Karl Smith, Access Technology Consultant Axis 4304 South El Camino St. Taylorsville, Utah 84129 Phone: 866-824-7885 Fax: 866-824-7885 E-mail: k...@axistech.net <mailto:k...@axistech.net> Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com <mailto:karl.axist...@gmail.com> Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech My blog http://www.samobile.net/users/oksaxis/blog/ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 5:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: KNFB Reader App Yes, Apple did all of that, but at the same time they use a lot of proprietary hardware and software which makes a lot of their devices and accessories a lot more expensive than the competition and yet people have no problems forking out $30 or $35 for a stupid little Lightning to 30 PIN adapter which is roughly the size of a double A battery or a 3 foot piece of cable with a USB plug on one end and a 30-Pin or Lightning plug on the other. A comparible Micro USB cable would cost about $5 or $8. I don't really blame Apple for this, they charge what people are willing to pay, but I am sure KNFB put a lot of time and expertise in developing the iOS version of KNFB Reader and from what I have heard so far it may do some things which Prizmo or Text Grabber won't do so I think once again we should all just wait until the app is released before passing the guilty verdict. $99 is expensive for most apps, but I have seen other apps on the App Store which cost that and much more and which are made for a particular target market. Regards, Sieghardthere are other specialized From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 3:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App One of the things I really like about Apple, iOS in particular, is that it has successfully allowed us to escape from the old business model of paying a lot of money for assistive products. No longer do we have to pay a high price to access our screens because Apple included a free access package. No longer do we have to pay a high price for OCR apps because sighted people, who use and require the same apps, only need to pay a few dollars for it and, therefore, so do we. In my opinion, and this is just my opinion, the marketing department of KNFB is doing us a tremendous disservice by trying to bring back the 1980's and 1990's business model of how assistive technology is distributed. Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.DavidGoldfield.info Feel free to visit my LinkedIn profile http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-goldfield/12/929/573 Visit my blog http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com Follow me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/davidgoldfield David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired On 7/6/2014 6:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote: All I can say is: there better be a demo version. Offer ten scans, pop up alerts every minute, limit some functions. Somehow, though, they need to release a lite version. If I'm going to drop half the cost of a new iPod Touch on one app, I want to be absolutely sure it will meet my needs first. If they offer only the $99 app with no way of testing it, well, that's just a bad idea. On Jul 6, 2014, at 6:44 PM, Feliciano G <theblindman...@hotmail.com <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com> > wrote: Other platform OCR applications cost over $200. This is not priced too high if it competes with the other OCR applications. I am curious on what it can really do. I hear it can OCR text from 20ft away. Regards, Feliciano Twitter: @Theblindman12v www.twitter.com/theblindman12v <http://www.twitter.com/theblindman12v> Sent from the Super-iPhone On Jul 6, 2014, at 3:36 PM, "'David Goldfield' via VIPhone" <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote: In my opinion, the price of this app, if it is indeed $99.00, is insanely high and it won't be on my phone for that price. However, ultimately the market, as it always does, will decide. I know some will purchase it at this price. If enough people don't, then the folks at KNFB will have to make some decisions about the price. If enough people buy it at $99.00, then the app will likely remain at that price for some time. Feel free to visit my new Web site http://www.DavidGoldfield.info <http://www.davidgoldfield.info/> Feel free to visit my LinkedIn profile http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-goldfield/12/929/573 Visit my blog http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com <http://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/> Follow me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/davidgoldfield David Goldfield, Founder and Peer Coordinator Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired On 7/6/2014 6:32 PM, Anthony Vece wrote: These companies just don't get it. Most people like accessibility off the shelf. Sent from my iPhone 5s! On Jul 6, 2014, at 5:32 PM, "Betty Emmons" <bettycemm...@gmail.com <mailto:bettycemm...@gmail.com> > wrote: for that price it better do tha laundry, wash the dishes and clean the house. while I'm thinking of it maybe drive me where I want to go. Betty Emmons ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Turner <mailto:rich...@turner42.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 4:10 PM Subject: Re: KNFB Reader App If it was $30 I might consider it if other demos show equal results in speed and accuracy, but $99? They must be on some pretty amazing drugs to think people will pay that much for something that is only faster by a few seconds than apps like TextGrabber or Prizmo. Just my opinion. Richard "Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education." - Victor Hugo Sent from my iPhone On Jul 6, 2014, at 12:04 PM, "Andy Baracco" <w...@socal.rr.com <mailto:w...@socal.rr.com> > wrote: It was announced that the KNFB Reader app for the iPhone will cost $99 and will be available by the end of August. Andy I'm not wearing a diaper, so don't try to change me. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. 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