yes, it was totally amazing! at the time, Ray envisioned something about
the size of a briefcase. Ray has been a wonderful friend to the blind, and
will continue to be, as long as he lives, which I hope is a really long time
yet. Ray also hopes this. He wants to live to be 150 years old.
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From: "Marianne Denning" <maria...@denningweb.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions
Ray Kurzweil has not been involved in the Kurzweil company for many
years and I don't believe Kurzweil Educational Systems had anything to
do with the development of the KNFB Reader. NFB provided significant
funding for the original Kurzweil machine back in the 1970s. We have
come a long way since it was a free standing machine that cost $50,000
and all it would do is read scanned documents. Now it is a $100.00
app on your IPhone.
On 9/22/14, Husna Begum <h.begu...@btinternet.com> wrote:
hi,
has knfb reader been developed by kurzweil? i used to use kurzweil when i
needed to scan books for university and it was quite good.
Husna
-----Original Message-----
From: RobH.
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 10:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions
Hummmnmnm,.... the logic of it threw me too, so are we to understand
the
app can't learn to rotate and process the image the other way? I know some
of the smarter pc based reader apps did this.
Kertsweil springs to mind.
Getting range or distence right would help too; wonder if they recommend a
viewing distence for this?
Those scanning boxes have their uses then, though not a portable solution.
Rh.
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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions
Hi,
I'm no photographer, but I am a math and science guy. If you are saying
that
taking a landscape picture of a page that is essentially a portrait
improves
results, that makes no logical sense. The number of pixels lost is on the
order of 40%. You lose about 20% on the left and right sides to
meaningless
background if a full portrait page is in view in landscape
I don't buy it. There must be another factor contributing to the issue.
Unless of course, the OCR engine works better with fewer pixels.
--k
Faith doesn't give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the
questions.
On Sep 18, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:
There's your problem, hold it in landscape mode, you'll get better
results.
I recommend Judy Dixon's book, Get the Picture, from National Braille
Press. it does a great job of helping a blind person understand
photography.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org
On 19/09/2014, at 5:01 am, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com>
wrote:
I tend to hold the phone so that the camera points towards the top of
the
document. The vibration thingy is really a great help, they've been
thinking there. At the risk of sounding stupid again, should i not hold
the phone with the camera pointing to the top of the document but rather
as if i had it in landscape mode?
/Krister
18 sep 2014 kl. 18:15 skrev Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org>:
Hi Krister, hard to know what you're doing without seeing what you're
doing, but the one thing that comes to mind is, are you holding the
phone lengthways or sideways? I find I get the best results by putting
a
page of text on a table, like I would be reading it in Braille or
visually. Then hold the phone sideways a few centimetres above the
page.
Use the vibration feedback so that the phone stops vibrating,
indicating
you have the angle right, then take the picture. For further feedback
before you take the picture, you might use the field of view report,
particularly in the early stages.
Good luck. This thing really rocks so stick with it.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org
On 19/09/2014, at 3:53 am, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com>
wrote:
What are you guys doing to get good results? Me, i got a lot of
gibberish and some readable text but not much. Is there a technique
for
this? Does the reader give some kind of feedback when all text's
detected? Anyways now i know that it's me and not the app that's
stupid.:-)
/Krister
18 sep 2014 kl. 17:37 skrev Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com>:
I have played a bit today with this app on my iPhone 5S and it really
is pretty good. I just got it to read the instructions on a small
bread mix bag where the text was incredibly tiny and brown on a beige
background. The results were very quick and about 95% accurate! Harry
On 18 Sep 2014, at 13:23, Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com> wrote:
Eileen;
I believe I'm going to try it on my 5s.
If and, when I do, I'let everyone know.
Sentence from my AT&T iPhone 5s!
On Sep 18, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Eileen Misrahi
<eileen.misr...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Jonathan,
Your first impressions of the KNFB app is encouraging. At this
time,
I'm going to have to be on the sidelines until I decide on which
iPhone 6 I will purchase. This is my question to this thread. For
those who invest in the KNFB Reader app and have purchased either
an
iPhone 6 or 6 plus, it would be terrific to post on the accuracy of
the app in comparison to the phone that they originally installed
the app on. Also, if one can also comment on the use of the app
with
the 6 plus in particular because of the optical stabilization.
ANOTHER person read my mind regarding if your use of the app was
with the StandScan or with some other type of stand.
Thanks so much for your first impressions.
Best,
Eileen
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:41 AM, Feliciano G
<theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:
It is now available on the app store to download.
Regards, Feliciano
Like my Facebook page:
https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=690649294341327
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Sent from the Super-iPhone
On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:19 AM, "BrianMiller"
<brianrmille...@gmail.com> wrote:
Jonathan,
So is the KNFB reader app now available in the app store?
Also, are you using a stand to take the scans/pics, or are you
just holding the phone over the page or item?
Thanks so much, this is very encouraging!
Brian M
From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On
Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: KNFB Reader, First Impressions
I've spent the last half hour or so playing with KNFB Reader on
my
iPhone 5s. I couldn't be more impressed.
I read my son's school report, which it got word perfect even
when
it came to reading tables. It read a glossy pizza menu fairly
well. It read the page of a book perfectly, and it read a letter
I
received in the mail. The feedback one gets via vibration to line
up the picture is incredibly helpful. You can use the field of
view report if you need to for even more information about camera
positioning and angle.
And, it's fast. Very fast, between taking a picture and getting
speech.
It's early days but this has actually exceeded my expectations.
Certainly it's possible to use other apps, but I've found nothing
this simple, fast, or accurate without any additional aids.
Outstanding stuff.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org
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