He's the chief engineer, from what I remember, I'm sure he will try. Google
gave each of the 20 or so scholarship winners at this summer's convention a
Nexus tablet
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From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." <kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 6:46 PM
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader, First Impressions
I understand he is a Senior employee at Google. I hope he can swing Google
towards as good a commitment to accessibility for the blind and visually
impaired as Steve Jobs did with Apple.
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Gail the U. S. Male
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions
yes, it was totally amazing! at the time, Ray envisioned something about
the size of a briefcase. Ray has been a wonderful friend to the blind, and
will continue to be, as long as he lives, which I hope is a really long time
yet. Ray also hopes this. He wants to live to be 150 years old.
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From: "Marianne Denning" <maria...@denningweb.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions
Ray Kurzweil has not been involved in the Kurzweil company for many years
and I don't believe Kurzweil Educational Systems had anything to do with the
development of the KNFB Reader. NFB provided significant funding for the
original Kurzweil machine back in the 1970s. We have come a long way since
it was a free standing machine that cost $50,000 and all it would do is read
scanned documents. Now it is a $100.00 app on your IPhone.
On 9/22/14, Husna Begum <h.begu...@btinternet.com> wrote:
hi,
has knfb reader been developed by kurzweil? i used to use kurzweil
when i needed to scan books for university and it was quite good.
Husna
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From: RobH.
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 10:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions
Hummmnmnm,.... the logic of it threw me too, so are we to understand
the
app can't learn to rotate and process the image the other way? I know
some of the smarter pc based reader apps did this.
Kertsweil springs to mind.
Getting range or distence right would help too; wonder if they
recommend a viewing distence for this?
Those scanning boxes have their uses then, though not a portable solution.
Rh.
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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions
Hi,
I'm no photographer, but I am a math and science guy. If you are
saying that taking a landscape picture of a page that is essentially a
portrait improves results, that makes no logical sense. The number of
pixels lost is on the order of 40%. You lose about 20% on the left and
right sides to meaningless background if a full portrait page is in
view in landscape
I don't buy it. There must be another factor contributing to the issue.
Unless of course, the OCR engine works better with fewer pixels.
--k
Faith doesn't give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking
the questions.
On Sep 18, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:
There's your problem, hold it in landscape mode, you'll get better
results.
I recommend Judy Dixon's book, Get the Picture, from National Braille
Press. it does a great job of helping a blind person understand
photography.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org
On 19/09/2014, at 5:01 am, Krister Ekstrom
<kris...@kristersplace.com>
wrote:
I tend to hold the phone so that the camera points towards the top
of the document. The vibration thingy is really a great help,
they've been thinking there. At the risk of sounding stupid again,
should i not hold the phone with the camera pointing to the top of
the document but rather as if i had it in landscape mode?
/Krister
18 sep 2014 kl. 18:15 skrev Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org>:
Hi Krister, hard to know what you're doing without seeing what
you're doing, but the one thing that comes to mind is, are you
holding the phone lengthways or sideways? I find I get the best
results by putting a page of text on a table, like I would be
reading it in Braille or visually. Then hold the phone sideways a
few centimetres above the page.
Use the vibration feedback so that the phone stops vibrating,
indicating you have the angle right, then take the picture. For
further feedback before you take the picture, you might use the
field of view report, particularly in the early stages.
Good luck. This thing really rocks so stick with it.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org
On 19/09/2014, at 3:53 am, Krister Ekstrom
<kris...@kristersplace.com>
wrote:
What are you guys doing to get good results? Me, i got a lot of
gibberish and some readable text but not much. Is there a
technique for this? Does the reader give some kind of feedback
when all text's detected? Anyways now i know that it's me and not
the app that's
stupid.:-)
/Krister
18 sep 2014 kl. 17:37 skrev Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com>:
I have played a bit today with this app on my iPhone 5S and it
really is pretty good. I just got it to read the instructions on
a small bread mix bag where the text was incredibly tiny and
brown on a beige background. The results were very quick and
about 95% accurate! Harry
On 18 Sep 2014, at 13:23, Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com> wrote:
Eileen;
I believe I'm going to try it on my 5s.
If and, when I do, I'let everyone know.
Sentence from my AT&T iPhone 5s!
On Sep 18, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Eileen Misrahi
<eileen.misr...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Jonathan,
Your first impressions of the KNFB app is encouraging. At this
time, I'm going to have to be on the sidelines until I decide
on which iPhone 6 I will purchase. This is my question to this
thread. For those who invest in the KNFB Reader app and have
purchased either an iPhone 6 or 6 plus, it would be terrific to
post on the accuracy of the app in comparison to the phone that
they originally installed the app on. Also, if one can also
comment on the use of the app with the 6 plus in particular
because of the optical stabilization.
ANOTHER person read my mind regarding if your use of the app
was with the StandScan or with some other type of stand.
Thanks so much for your first impressions.
Best,
Eileen
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:41 AM, Feliciano G
<theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote:
It is now available on the app store to download.
Regards, Feliciano
Like my Facebook page:
https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=690649294341327
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Sent from the Super-iPhone
On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:19 AM, "BrianMiller"
<brianrmille...@gmail.com> wrote:
Jonathan,
So is the KNFB reader app now available in the app store?
Also, are you using a stand to take the scans/pics, or are
you just holding the phone over the page or item?
Thanks so much, this is very encouraging!
Brian M
From:
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On
Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: KNFB Reader, First Impressions
I've spent the last half hour or so playing with KNFB Reader
on my iPhone 5s. I couldn't be more impressed.
I read my son's school report, which it got word perfect even
when it came to reading tables. It read a glossy pizza menu
fairly well. It read the page of a book perfectly, and it
read a letter I received in the mail. The feedback one gets
via vibration to line up the picture is incredibly helpful.
You can use the field of view report if you need to for even
more information about camera positioning and angle.
And, it's fast. Very fast, between taking a picture and
getting speech.
It's early days but this has actually exceeded my expectations.
Certainly it's possible to use other apps, but I've found
nothing this simple, fast, or accurate without any additional
aids.
Outstanding stuff.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org
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