In the early 2000s the NFB and Ray Kurzweil collaborated on a company, KNFB Reading Technology to develop the first handheld reading machine which appeared in 2006. By 2009 the software migrated to a Nokia cell phone and now it has moved to the iPhone. Ray Kurzweil in fact no longer works for the company but is still on its board of directors.
Karl __________ Karl Smith, Access Technology Consultant Axis 4304 South El Camino St. Taylorsville, Utah 84129 Phone: 866-824-7885 Fax: 866-824-7885 E-mail: k...@axistech.net Alternate E-mail: karl.axist...@gmail.com Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech My blog http://www.samobile.net/users/oksaxis/blog/ -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marianne Denning Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions Ray Kurzweil has not been involved in the Kurzweil company for many years and I don't believe Kurzweil Educational Systems had anything to do with the development of the KNFB Reader. NFB provided significant funding for the original Kurzweil machine back in the 1970s. We have come a long way since it was a free standing machine that cost $50,000 and all it would do is read scanned documents. Now it is a $100.00 app on your IPhone. On 9/22/14, Husna Begum <h.begu...@btinternet.com> wrote: > hi, > > has knfb reader been developed by kurzweil? i used to use kurzweil > when i needed to scan books for university and it was quite good. > > Husna > > > -----Original Message----- > From: RobH. > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 10:44 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions > > Hummmnmnm,.... the logic of it threw me too, so are we to understand the > app can't learn to rotate and process the image the other way? I know > some of the smarter pc based reader apps did this. > > Kertsweil springs to mind. > > Getting range or distence right would help too; wonder if they > recommend a viewing distence for this? > > Those scanning boxes have their uses then, though not a portable solution. > > Rh. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kayaker" <sea...@me.com> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 6:48 PM > Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions > > > Hi, > > I'm no photographer, but I am a math and science guy. If you are > saying that taking a landscape picture of a page that is essentially a > portrait improves results, that makes no logical sense. The number of > pixels lost is on the order of 40%. You lose about 20% on the left and > right sides to meaningless background if a full portrait page is in > view in landscape > > I don't buy it. There must be another factor contributing to the issue. > Unless of course, the OCR engine works better with fewer pixels. > > > --k > Faith doesn't give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking > the questions. > > > > On Sep 18, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote: > >> There's your problem, hold it in landscape mode, you'll get better >> results. >> I recommend Judy Dixon's book, Get the Picture, from National Braille >> Press. it does a great job of helping a blind person understand >> photography. >> Jonathan Mosen >> Mosen Consulting >> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org >> >>> On 19/09/2014, at 5:01 am, Krister Ekstrom >>> <kris...@kristersplace.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I tend to hold the phone so that the camera points towards the top >>> of the document. The vibration thingy is really a great help, >>> they've been thinking there. At the risk of sounding stupid again, >>> should i not hold the phone with the camera pointing to the top of >>> the document but rather as if i had it in landscape mode? >>> /Krister >>> >>>> 18 sep 2014 kl. 18:15 skrev Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org>: >>>> >>>> Hi Krister, hard to know what you're doing without seeing what >>>> you're doing, but the one thing that comes to mind is, are you >>>> holding the phone lengthways or sideways? I find I get the best >>>> results by putting a page of text on a table, like I would be >>>> reading it in Braille or visually. Then hold the phone sideways a >>>> few centimetres above the page. >>>> Use the vibration feedback so that the phone stops vibrating, >>>> indicating you have the angle right, then take the picture. For >>>> further feedback before you take the picture, you might use the >>>> field of view report, particularly in the early stages. >>>> Good luck. This thing really rocks so stick with it. >>>> Jonathan Mosen >>>> Mosen Consulting >>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>>> http://Mosen.org >>>> >>>>> On 19/09/2014, at 3:53 am, Krister Ekstrom >>>>> <kris...@kristersplace.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> What are you guys doing to get good results? Me, i got a lot of >>>>> gibberish and some readable text but not much. Is there a >>>>> technique for this? Does the reader give some kind of feedback >>>>> when all text's detected? Anyways now i know that it's me and not >>>>> the app that's >>>>> stupid.:-) >>>>> /Krister >>>>> >>>>>> 18 sep 2014 kl. 17:37 skrev Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com>: >>>>>> >>>>>> I have played a bit today with this app on my iPhone 5S and it >>>>>> really is pretty good. I just got it to read the instructions on >>>>>> a small bread mix bag where the text was incredibly tiny and >>>>>> brown on a beige background. The results were very quick and >>>>>> about 95% accurate! Harry >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 18 Sep 2014, at 13:23, Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Eileen; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I believe I'm going to try it on my 5s. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If and, when I do, I'let everyone know. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sentence from my AT&T iPhone 5s! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 18, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Eileen Misrahi >>>>>>> <eileen.misr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello Jonathan, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Your first impressions of the KNFB app is encouraging. At this >>>>>>>> time, I'm going to have to be on the sidelines until I decide >>>>>>>> on which iPhone 6 I will purchase. This is my question to this >>>>>>>> thread. For those who invest in the KNFB Reader app and have >>>>>>>> purchased either an iPhone 6 or 6 plus, it would be terrific to >>>>>>>> post on the accuracy of the app in comparison to the phone that >>>>>>>> they originally installed the app on. Also, if one can also >>>>>>>> comment on the use of the app with the 6 plus in particular >>>>>>>> because of the optical stabilization. >>>>>>>> ANOTHER person read my mind regarding if your use of the app >>>>>>>> was with the StandScan or with some other type of stand. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks so much for your first impressions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> Eileen >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:41 AM, Feliciano G >>>>>>>> <theblindman...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It is now available on the app store to download. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, Feliciano >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Like my Facebook page: >>>>>>>>> https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=690649294341327 >>>>>>>>> Follow me on Twitter: Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from the Super-iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:19 AM, "BrianMiller" >>>>>>>>> <brianrmille...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jonathan, >>>>>>>>>> So is the KNFB reader app now available in the app store? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also, are you using a stand to take the scans/pics, or are >>>>>>>>>> you just holding the phone over the page or item? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much, this is very encouraging! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Brian M >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: >>>>>>>>>> viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] >>>>>>>>>> On >>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:05 AM >>>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>> Subject: KNFB Reader, First Impressions >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've spent the last half hour or so playing with KNFB Reader >>>>>>>>>> on my iPhone 5s. I couldn't be more impressed. >>>>>>>>>> I read my son's school report, which it got word perfect even >>>>>>>>>> when it came to reading tables. It read a glossy pizza menu >>>>>>>>>> fairly well. It read the page of a book perfectly, and it >>>>>>>>>> read a letter I received in the mail. The feedback one gets >>>>>>>>>> via vibration to line up the picture is incredibly helpful. >>>>>>>>>> You can use the field of view report if you need to for even >>>>>>>>>> more information about camera positioning and angle. >>>>>>>>>> And, it's fast. 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