I've not seen VO crash on the 6. If you don't use braille or Bluetooth and are a bit tolerant you will be fine.
On 9/24/14, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all. Thanks for the feedback. It sounds like I can wait a bit for > the new phone, which should be here in at most another 2 weeks. > Hopefully by then Apple will have put out a minor update or two to fix > all the annoyances. I could put it on my 5, but given that several > have reported VO crashing, I am not in that much of a hurry to get iOS > 8. Besides, if the bugs persist, then I will get to endure them with > everyone else on the brand new iPhone 6, oh boy. > > Wayne > > On 9/24/14, Cheryl Homiak <cah4...@icloud.com> wrote: >> I'm not having many problems on my phones and the instructions sent to me >> re: the rivvo helped me with all my bluetooth keyboards. Crashing is >> annoying but on my iPad, I much prefer it stopping and restarting to what >> it >> has sometimes done to me: stopping and hanging in the middle of an email >> so >> that i had to turn off vo, lock the iPad, unlock it and turn on vo again. >> For me, stopping and restarting and even some characters that repeat which >> I >> may have to delete are better than that: of course I'd rather have none >> of >> the above :-) >> >> -- >> Cheryl >> >> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. >> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper >> thrown in the trash! >> Then God gave me a new heart and life: >> His joy for my despairing tears! >> And now, every day: >> "This I call to mind, >> and therefore I have hope: >> The steadfast love of the Lord >> never ceases; >> his mercies never come to an end; >> they are new every morning; >> great is your faithfulness." >> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 24, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >>> I don't use a bluetooth keyboard or display, and I have no major >>> problems. >>> Yes, VO crashes more, and sometimes Siri won't work quite right. I'm >>> willing to put up with those problems, though, to get the braille input, >>> interactive notifications, widgets, predictive typing, and other iOS8 >>> features. It's a personal choice, though, and if you don't want the >>> bugs, >>> there's no harm at all in waiting. >>> On Sep 24, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> So out of curiosity, what are people's opinions about running iOS 8 on >>>> an iPhone 5? I have the 5 and haven't updated yet, trying to wait >>>> until I get the new iPhone 6 hopefully soon. >>>> >>>> Wayne >>>> >>>> On 9/24/14, John Diakogeorgiou <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> It seems to me that the people who are having crashing problems with >>>>> IOS 8 are those with 4s's. It's very possible that the 4s can't handle >>>>> the requirements of IOS with other apps and Apple shouldn't have >>>>> supported it. >>>>> >>>>> On 9/24/14, Øyvind Lode <oyv...@lode.is> wrote: >>>>>> First of all I must say that I don't regret upgrading my 4s to iOS 8. >>>>>> However, VoiceOver crashes all the time on my 4s. >>>>>> I have not found a pattern to all the crashes. >>>>>> The good thing is that VO at least restarts when it decide to die on >>>>>> me. >>>>>> But it crashes at least 10-15 times a day and I know when it crashed >>>>>> VO >>>>>> is >>>>>> on, screen curtain on etc is announced. >>>>>> I have done a reset - reset to factory settings but still the same. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>>> Behalf >>>>>> Of Christopher Chaltain >>>>>> Sent: 24. september 2014 13:53 >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver >>>>>> >>>>>> Doing as David suggests is probably best, but it might also be the >>>>>> case >>>>>> that your voice was turned off. Try a three finger double tap to >>>>>> toggle >>>>>> the voice on and off. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, if you have the home button set as your VoiceOver short cut, >>>>>> try >>>>>> a >>>>>> triple tap of the home button. Recycling VoiceOver helps me in >>>>>> similar >>>>>> situations. Maybe you can use Siri to turn VoiceOver off and then >>>>>> back >>>>>> on as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've seen a couple of posts now to where IOS 8 with it's VoiceOver >>>>>> bugs >>>>>> is compared to blindness specific products or older smart phone >>>>>> technologies, like Windows Mobile running Mobile Accessibility. IMHO, >>>>>> one of the great things about Apple and their commitment to making >>>>>> their >>>>>> main stream products accessible is that we get treated the same as >>>>>> the >>>>>> rest of their main stream customers. I fear that if we lower the bar >>>>>> with our expectations then we're no better off then when we use those >>>>>> so >>>>>> called blind ghetto products that so many people are quick to thumb >>>>>> their noses at. Let's give Apple credit where credit is due, but >>>>>> let's >>>>>> just not roll over like blind Uncle Tom's being happy with whatever >>>>>> accessibility Apple thinks we'll be content with. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 09/24/2014 12:18 AM, David Chittenden wrote: >>>>>>> When VO goes quiet like that, take your fingers away from the >>>>>>> iPhone. >>>>>>> iOS >>>>>>> is performing memory management. Give a chance for iOS / VO to catch >>>>>>> up. >>>>>>> Something similar occurred with iOS 7 when it first came out. Unlike >>>>>>> blindness specific poducts which can take six months to a year to be >>>>>>> fixed, Apple's history is to take one-three months. Let's see what >>>>>>> happens. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>>>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 24 Sep 2014, at 14:49, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm sorry but VoiceOver on my 5S has now complete crap on IOS 8 as >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> the second time today VoiceOver has completely crapped out while >>>>>>>> tapping >>>>>>>> the screen at the same time a push notification comes through. >>>>>>>> VoiceOVer >>>>>>>> just dies and if I press the home button and tell Siri to tell Siri >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> turn VO on Siri tells me VO is already on. Ok, really then why am I >>>>>>>> hearing nothing but clicks. Then I go to press the power on/off >>>>>>>> button >>>>>>>> and the home button to restart the phone and now that doesn't work >>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> hear the photo being taken sound. Really impressive job with IOS8 >>>>>>>> Apple. >>>>>>>> I'm sorry but this IOS 8 release with all of its bugs is total crap >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> really piss poor job by Apple for the blind community. If you >>>>>>>> haven't >>>>>>>> upgraded yet don't until 8.1 and that is if Apple can be bothered >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> actually make some VO changes in that one as it is obvious there >>>>>>>> engineers are more focused on other areas and VoiceOver is at the >>>>>>>> bottom >>>>>>>> of the food chain. Time to start at least listening to what Droid >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> doin >>>>>> g, never thought I would say that having been on the iPhone since the >>>>>> 3GS >>>>>> and completely shifting all my products to Apple, but this release >>>>>> and >>>>>> the >>>>>> 35 or so VO bugs is making me start to think maybe Apple isn't the >>>>>> answer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the >>>>>>>> viphone >>>>>>>> list. 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