Their are definitely much worse bugs. It's not worth holding off for. On 10/22/14, Trea Abma <trea.a...@gmail.com> wrote: > workaround is often very simple. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Davy Cuppens > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:56 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: IOS 8.1 > > I find the focus bug the most spectacular ever seen. How frustrating > it is for us blinds clicking another button or position than that is > mentioned by speech. > I advise certainly not to upgrade until this bug is fixed. > Regards > Davy > > 2014-10-21 23:57 GMT+02:00, Teresa Cochran <batsfly...@me.com>: >> That status cell bug was the most spectacular one I've ever seen in iOS. >> I >> was completely flummoxed when I first encountered it, because Siri would >> tell me that Voiceover was on, etc. Just bizarre. >> >> Teresa >> >> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing >> with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks >> >>> On Oct 21, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> From the news yesterday, I think they fixed the issue with changing >>> status cells from off to another setting, and having that crash >>> VoiceOver. I believe that was the only Braille issue mentioned, at >>> least according to the AppleVis post I read. >>> >>> Wayne >>> >>>> On 10/21/14, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> The keyboard command for quicknav on a braille display is space with >>>> q, but it doesn't toggle quicknav on and off as would be expected. I'm >>>> not quite sure what braille display issues theyve fixed, I suppose the >>>> braille input is a bit faster, but still not up to par imho. >>>> >>>> Scott >>>> >>>>> On 10/21/14, Davy Cuppens <davycupp...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Pablo >>>>> >>>>> I would indeed suggest not to update, will post a list of bugs that >>>>> are >>>>> remaining. >>>>> Regards >>>>> Davy disappointed in ios8.1. >>>>> >>>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>>>> From: Pablo Morales >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 8:38 PM >>>>> To: viphone >>>>> Subject: Re: IOS 8.1 >>>>> >>>>> hmmm, maybe is not a good idea update my IOs7 yet. >>>>> >>>>>> On 10/21/14, Christopher Hallsworth <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>> No it's working a treat here and not crashed at all even on the 4s. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 20/10/2014 23:20, Shermeen Khan wrote: >>>>>>> Can anyone comment as to whether or not vo is still turning itself >>>>>>> off >>>>>>> and then back on again? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Shermeen >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 10/20/14, matthew Dyer <matthew.dy...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When a call comes in vo would announce the name or number of the >>>>>>>> incoming >>>>>>>> caller. This no longer happens in iOS 8. HTH. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Matthew >>>>>>>> matthew dyer >>>>>>>> sent from my 27 inch iMac. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> facebook, facetime and iMessage: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Skype: graduater2004 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Hope Paulos <hope.pau...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am thinking about updating, but I'm unsure of what people are >>>>>>>>> talking >>>>>>>>> about when they say caller ID bug. What is this? Does this mean >>>>>>>>> caller >>>>>>>>> ID is totally gone? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hope Paulos >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well, even though the caller ID bug is still there, I will still >>>>>>>>>> update to 8.1. I try to wait a day or two before I update, but I >>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>> think I will be able to given that many of the bugs have been >>>>>>>>>> fixed, >>>>>>>>>> especially the touchtone sticking bug. There are also some >>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>> fixes that look good, such as in Messages and with Wifi. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Wayne >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 10/20/14, Teresa Cochran <batsfly...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Braille command for QuickNav still doesn't work, but Bluetooth >>>>>>>>>>> keyboard >>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> much better. QuikNav disengages most of the time when going into >>>>>>>>>>> edit >>>>>>>>>>> fields >>>>>>>>>>> as it used to do. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Teresa >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> seeing >>>>>>>>>>> with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 11:21 AM, Brian Fischler >>>>>>>>>>>> <brianfisch...@me.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> A couple of quick confirms of fixes. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. On first call numbers no longer stick on dial pad. >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Was able to move an app from the row above my dock to >>>>>>>>>>>> another >>>>>>>>>>>> row >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. An app of mine that was constantly crashing in 8.0 is no >>>>>>>>>>>> longer >>>>>>>>>>>> crashing in 8.1 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Just a couple of things I have checked so far. Thank you to >>>>>>>>>>>> Apple. >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 1:23 PM, John Diakogeorgiou >>>>>>>>>>>>> <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It looks like Apple did some work with a couple of the major >>>>>>>>>>>>> Voice >>>>>>>>>>>>> Over bugs. These include eliminating the bug where when >>>>>>>>>>>>> dialing >>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>> button would stick Another bug fix is the problem with >>>>>>>>>>>>> blootooth >>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboards. I did not see any mention of the braille display >>>>>>>>>>>>> bug >>>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>> people have talked about. Time will only tell. I just >>>>>>>>>>>>> installed >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> update and have not played with it yet.. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> viphone >>>>>>>>>>>>> list. 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