Hi, while I agree that the focus issue can be a huge inconvenience, it's not a show stopper for some people. So, you can't in good faith recommend that someone not upgrade just because something doesn't work right for you specifically. Do I find the focus bug annoying for me personally? Yes, but since I can get around it by using 3-finger swipes to visually get to what I want, it's not a show-stopper for me. I often train my clients to not always rely on merely swiping since that is just blindly moving across the controls of the screen without a clue as to where things actually are. Now, the Braille bug for example with the status cell causing Voice Over to disappear completely is another huge and annoying bug, but if the person doesn't use a Braille display and they aren't going to change that setting, then upgrading to iOS wouldn't have been a big issue. So, the bottom line is you just need to decide for yourself what are show-stoppers and what are work-around and go from there.

Hope that helps.

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On 10/22/2014 6:56 AM, Davy Cuppens wrote:
I find the focus bug the most spectacular ever seen. How frustrating
it is for us blinds clicking another button or position than that is
mentioned by speech.
I advise certainly not to upgrade until this bug is fixed.
Regards
Davy

2014-10-21 23:57 GMT+02:00, Teresa Cochran <batsfly...@me.com>:
That status cell bug was the most spectacular one I've ever seen in iOS. I
was completely flummoxed when I first encountered it, because Siri would
tell me that Voiceover was on, etc. Just bizarre.

Teresa

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with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks

On Oct 21, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:

 From the news yesterday, I think they fixed the issue with changing
status cells from off to another setting, and having that crash
VoiceOver. I believe that was the only Braille issue mentioned, at
least according to the AppleVis post I read.

Wayne

On 10/21/14, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> wrote:
The keyboard command for quicknav on a braille display is space with
q, but it doesn't toggle quicknav on and off as would be expected. I'm
not quite sure what braille display issues theyve fixed, I suppose the
braille input is a bit faster, but still not up to par imho.

Scott

On 10/21/14, Davy Cuppens <davycupp...@gmail.com> wrote:
Pablo

I would indeed suggest not to update, will post a list of bugs that are
remaining.
Regards
Davy disappointed in ios8.1.

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From: Pablo Morales
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 8:38 PM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: IOS 8.1

hmmm, maybe is not a good idea update my IOs7 yet.

On 10/21/14, Christopher Hallsworth <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:
No it's working a treat here and not crashed at all even on the 4s.

On 20/10/2014 23:20, Shermeen Khan wrote:
Can anyone comment as to whether or not vo is still turning itself
off
and then back on again?

Thanks,

Shermeen


On 10/20/14, matthew Dyer <matthew.dy...@icloud.com> wrote:
Hi,

When a call comes in vo would announce the name or number of the
incoming
caller.   This no longer happens in iOS 8.  HTH.

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On Oct 20, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Hope Paulos <hope.pau...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I am thinking about updating, but I'm unsure of what people are
talking
about when they say caller  ID  bug. What  is this? Does this mean
caller
ID is totally gone?

Hope Paulos

On Oct 20, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Well, even though the caller ID bug is still there, I will still
update to 8.1. I try to wait a day or two before I update, but I
don't
think I will be able to given that many of the bugs have been
fixed,
especially the touchtone sticking bug. There are also some general
fixes that look good, such as in Messages and with Wifi.

Wayne

On 10/20/14, Teresa Cochran <batsfly...@me.com> wrote:
Braille command for QuickNav still doesn't work, but Bluetooth
keyboard
is
much better. QuikNav disengages most of the time when going into
edit
fields
as it used to do.

Teresa

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seeing
with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks

On Oct 20, 2014, at 11:21 AM, Brian Fischler
<brianfisch...@me.com>
wrote:

Hey all,

A couple of quick confirms of fixes.

1. On first call numbers no longer stick on dial pad.
2. Was able to move an app from the row above my dock to another
row
3. An app of mine that was constantly crashing in 8.0 is no
longer
crashing in 8.1

Just a couple of things I have checked so far. Thank you to
Apple.
On Oct 20, 2014, at 1:23 PM, John Diakogeorgiou
<jdiakoge2...@gmail.com>
wrote:

It looks like Apple did some work with a couple of the major
Voice
Over bugs. These include eliminating the bug where when dialing
a
button would stick Another bug fix is the problem with
blootooth
keyboards. I did not see any mention of the braille display bug
which
people have talked about. Time will only tell. I just installed
the
update and have not played with it yet..

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