Here's another example: I have noticed the focus issue in the NFL Mobile app. Granted, the app is not what I would call accessible, more like usable. Anyway, I often have to explore by touch to find a team or game that I want to listen to. Flicking or swiping usually gets me nowhere fast. I can mostly get to one of my favorite teams to listen to their game, but if I want to listen to another game, I usually end up pulling it up on the computer. Sometimes the focus bug has been particularly bad and I haven't been able to explore much at all. As I say though, since this app is not completely accessible, I don't know if that lack of swiping is due to the focus bug or the app. I do know that NFL Mobile has been contacted by many, including me, and that they are working on accessibility. Oh well. Glad I can pull up the games and listen on my laptop.
Wayne On 10/23/14, Raul A. Gallegos <r...@raulgallegos.com> wrote: > Hi, for me specifically the mail program when you have an attachment. Do the > 3-finger swipe up to scroll the email pages to the end and then find the > attachment and then double tap it. If you simply flick right until you get > there, the attachment may not be double tapped because of this focus bug. > Also, where this is very annoying is in my Storm8 games. When I have to > purchase weapons and/or armor like in Kingdoms Live, I have to scroll with 3 > fingers and then guess where I think the correct buy link is. Let's just say > that I wouldn't recommend teaching a newbie on the iPhone how to play Storm8 > games because of this unless they knew the screens well. > > > >> On Oct 22, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Joseph <ablindvou...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> Got a question. >> I've not been able to do the 3 finger swipe to be able to activate a >> searchfield or button. Can you please give some examples of where you did >> this succesfully? >> Shure would appreciate it. >> Thanks. >> >>> On Oct 22, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Raul A. Gallegos <r...@raulgallegos.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, while I agree that the focus issue can be a huge inconvenience, it's >>> not a show stopper for some people. So, you can't in good faith recommend >>> that someone not upgrade just because something doesn't work right for >>> you specifically. Do I find the focus bug annoying for me personally? >>> Yes, but since I can get around it by using 3-finger swipes to visually >>> get to what I want, it's not a show-stopper for me. I often train my >>> clients to not always rely on merely swiping since that is just blindly >>> moving across the controls of the screen without a clue as to where >>> things actually are. Now, the Braille bug for example with the status >>> cell causing Voice Over to disappear completely is another huge and >>> annoying bug, but if the person doesn't use a Braille display and they >>> aren't going to change that setting, then upgrading to iOS wouldn't have >>> been a big issue. So, the bottom line is you just need to decide for >>> yourself what are show-stoppers and what are work-around and go from >>> there. >>> >>> Hope that helps. >>> >>> -- >>> Raul A. Gallegos >>> I've just finished writing a song about a tortilla. Well actually, it's >>> more of a wrap. Bazinga! - Sheldon Cooper >>> Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 >>> >>>> On 10/22/2014 6:56 AM, Davy Cuppens wrote: >>>> I find the focus bug the most spectacular ever seen. How frustrating >>>> it is for us blinds clicking another button or position than that is >>>> mentioned by speech. >>>> I advise certainly not to upgrade until this bug is fixed. >>>> Regards >>>> Davy >>>> >>>> 2014-10-21 23:57 GMT+02:00, Teresa Cochran <batsfly...@me.com>: >>>>> That status cell bug was the most spectacular one I've ever seen in >>>>> iOS. I >>>>> was completely flummoxed when I first encountered it, because Siri >>>>> would >>>>> tell me that Voiceover was on, etc. Just bizarre. >>>>> >>>>> Teresa >>>>> >>>>> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and >>>>> seeing >>>>> with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks >>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 21, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> From the news yesterday, I think they fixed the issue with changing >>>>>> status cells from off to another setting, and having that crash >>>>>> VoiceOver. I believe that was the only Braille issue mentioned, at >>>>>> least according to the AppleVis post I read. >>>>>> >>>>>> Wayne >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10/21/14, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> The keyboard command for quicknav on a braille display is space with >>>>>>> q, but it doesn't toggle quicknav on and off as would be expected. >>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>> not quite sure what braille display issues theyve fixed, I suppose >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> braille input is a bit faster, but still not up to par imho. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Scott >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 10/21/14, Davy Cuppens <davycupp...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Pablo >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would indeed suggest not to update, will post a list of bugs that >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> remaining. >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> Davy disappointed in ios8.1. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>>>>>>> From: Pablo Morales >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 8:38 PM >>>>>>>> To: viphone >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: IOS 8.1 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> hmmm, maybe is not a good idea update my IOs7 yet. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 10/21/14, Christopher Hallsworth <challswor...@icloud.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> No it's working a treat here and not crashed at all even on the >>>>>>>>> 4s. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 20/10/2014 23:20, Shermeen Khan wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Can anyone comment as to whether or not vo is still turning >>>>>>>>>> itself >>>>>>>>>> off >>>>>>>>>> and then back on again? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Shermeen >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 10/20/14, matthew Dyer <matthew.dy...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> When a call comes in vo would announce the name or number of the >>>>>>>>>>> incoming >>>>>>>>>>> caller. This no longer happens in iOS 8. HTH. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Matthew >>>>>>>>>>> matthew dyer >>>>>>>>>>> sent from my 27 inch iMac. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> facebook, facetime and iMessage: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Skype: graduater2004 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Hope Paulos >>>>>>>>>>>> <hope.pau...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am thinking about updating, but I'm unsure of what people are >>>>>>>>>>>> talking >>>>>>>>>>>> about when they say caller ID bug. What is this? Does this >>>>>>>>>>>> mean >>>>>>>>>>>> caller >>>>>>>>>>>> ID is totally gone? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hope Paulos >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 2:45 PM, Wayne Merritt >>>>>>>>>>>>> <wcmerr...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, even though the caller ID bug is still there, I will >>>>>>>>>>>>> still >>>>>>>>>>>>> update to 8.1. I try to wait a day or two before I update, but >>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>>>>> think I will be able to given that many of the bugs have been >>>>>>>>>>>>> fixed, >>>>>>>>>>>>> especially the touchtone sticking bug. There are also some >>>>>>>>>>>>> general >>>>>>>>>>>>> fixes that look good, such as in Messages and with Wifi. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Wayne >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/20/14, Teresa Cochran <batsfly...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Braille command for QuickNav still doesn't work, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bluetooth >>>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> much better. QuikNav disengages most of the time when going >>>>>>>>>>>>>> into >>>>>>>>>>>>>> edit >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fields >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as it used to do. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Teresa >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> seeing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 11:21 AM, Brian Fischler >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <brianfisch...@me.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A couple of quick confirms of fixes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. On first call numbers no longer stick on dial pad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Was able to move an app from the row above my dock to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> row >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. An app of mine that was constantly crashing in 8.0 is no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crashing in 8.1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just a couple of things I have checked so far. Thank you to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 1:23 PM, John Diakogeorgiou >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It looks like Apple did some work with a couple of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> major >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Voice >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Over bugs. These include eliminating the bug where when >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dialing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button would stick Another bug fix is the problem with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blootooth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboards. I did not see any mention of the braille display >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bug >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people have talked about. Time will only tell. 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