Hi

Okay, now I understand, the old mind is turning over rather slowly here, sorry. 
 I will give that a try.  Raise to speak I see is on in the settings for 
messages, so if it is going to work on my phone, I could try it then.  I might 
be having device-specific problems for sure, as I also often seem to struggle 
to answer a call now on the lock screen with the well-known 2-finger double 
tap, which worked like a charm before now, so just may be my phone is nearing 
the end of its life span.

Thanks for helping.

Regards

Jan

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 7:17 PM
  Subject: RE: Audio messaging in i-message with the iPhone 4s


  Hi Jan,

   

  OK, I’ll try this one more time: when raise to speak is turned on you do not 
have to tap the record button at all. The whole point for raise to speak is 
more or less hands free operation, of course it’s not really hands free as you 
are holding your phone, but all you do is start a new message, enter the 
contact or phone number where you want to send it to and if the Record button 
is there which means the other person has iMessage, then all you have to do is 
raise the phone to your ear and it should make the little beep indicating you 
can now speak. You then speak/record your message and take the phone away from 
your ear. This will stop the recording and you will have the buttons on the 
screen to play, send or cancel the message. Once again, don’t tap, double tap 
or double tap and hold on any buttons, just raise the phone to your ear.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jan Kleinhans
  Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 5:20 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Audio messaging in i-message with the iPhone 4s

   

  Hi

   

  Thanks for the info.  Let me see if I understand this, if "raise to speak" is 
on, how do I activate the record button, or does that still need to be double 
tapped?  If not, I am not too sure how this works, or do you tap and then hold 
the phone and raise it to your ear?  I agree on the audio quality being poor.  
A friend sent me an audio message, and it really does not sound too great.  
Thanks all the same for the suggestions.

   

  Regards

   

  Jan

   

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Sieghard Weitzel 

    To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

    Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 10:06 AM

    Subject: RE: Audio messaging in i-message with the iPhone 4s

     

    Hi Jan,

     

    No, you don’t touch the screen at all. If you enable raise to speak the 
sensors in the phone will notice when you raise the phone to your ear and 
engage the microphone, all you do is put the phone to your ear and speak then 
take it away when you are done and the recording will stop. You still have to 
tap the Send button,, however, it’s not like Whats App where the message is 
sent as soon as you release the record button. With audio messages you have the 
option to send the message or play it first if you want to hear how it sounds.

    The quality of audio messages in iOS is quite poor compared to Whats App, 
the native iOS audio messages sound like the recording on an answering machine. 
I’m actually a bit surprised by this and hope Apple will improve the sound 
quality in future updates.

     

     

    Regards,

    Sieghard

     

    From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Jan Kleinhans
    Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 11:14 PM
    To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Re: Audio messaging in i-message with the iPhone 4s

     

    Hi

     

    I'll try that, and yes, a restart has been done.  Does it mean that you 
press and hold the button, then quickly raise it to your ear to record and then 
take it away?  The time space for doing so is extremely short.  Thanks for the 
suggestion, will try that.

     

    Regards

     

    Jan

     

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Sieghard Weitzel 

      To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

      Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 7:36 AM

      Subject: RE: Audio messaging in i-message with the iPhone 4s

       

      This should work on a 4S. Have you shut down your phone and restarted it 
since the update? If not give that a try. If not you can try to just raise the 
phone to your ear as a work-around. On my 5S once I do this I hear the beep and 
I can just speak and record my message, once I take the phone away from my ear 
it stops.

      Oops, almost forgot, I can’t remember if “Raise to speak” is turned on by 
default, it is something you can turn on or off. Just go to Settings and 
Messages, it’s right towards the very bottom.

       

      Regards,

      Sieghard

      From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Jan Kleinhans
      Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 7:31 PM
      To: viphone@googlegroups.com
      Subject: Audio messaging in i-message with the iPhone 4s

       

      Hi

       

      I have now, on Friday, upgraded my 4S to Ios 8.1.1, and for the greater 
part it is not doing too bad.  I have however tried sending an audio message to 
a person which has I-messaging enabled on his Iphone.  It does not seem to work 
for me though.  The audio button is available, but double tapping and hold to 
record, just throws me out, an into the edit field, and a second or 2 of audio 
is recorded.  This happens whether the edit field is in edit mode or not.  Is 
this function meant to work on the 4S, seeing the button is available, or might 
this be a phone specific thing with my device?  Can others using the 4S with 
the latest Ios update indeed perform this action?

       

      Thanks for any help in the regard.

       

      Jan Kleinhans

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