menu thoughts - Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?

Mon, 08 Dec 2014 08:08:52 -0800

If people are willing to read a menu to you, they should realize that you're not going to make an immediate decision after hearing all of the choices, any more than they would read a menu and immediately choose.
As for using the KNFB reader to read a menu, my first thought would be that this can be done whenever you get the chance, and you can save the created file for later use, provided there is another way to access the menu for making a choice in a timely manner. 

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Diakogeorgiou" <jdiakoge2...@gmail.com>

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Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 9:10 AM

Subject: Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people liking 
KNFB reader?



Eden I must disagree with you. If your family can read and don't have
a problem reading a menu for you, I think that they will find it
annoying having to wait for you to make a decision long after they
have read the menu.

On 12/8/14, Raul A. Gallegos <r...@raulgallegos.com> wrote:

I fully agree with your message below. Being independent is one thing, but
being practical is another thing. If people can find the right balance
between practicality and independence then that is the best for everyone.

For example, just because I can do something a certain way doesn't mean 
it's

always the best way to do that certain way. If I am with someone and they
have offered to help me go over the menu, it's going to be more time

efficient to let that happen that way instead of me taking a picture of 
the

menu of each page and then deciding what I want after they have already
decided 10 minutes ago. To me being independent is figuring out the most
practical and efficient way of getting the job done.




On Dec 6, 2014, at 9:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

Hi Eden,


Would you actually go to a restaurant with your family and try to use 
KNFB

Reader to read the menu while they probably already selected what they
want and then wait to see if you get a good result?
I value independence as much as the next person, but if I walk into an
elevator with a friend, family member or even a bunch of strangers, I
don't have to push the correct button just because it has braille if
others who are pushing their own floor are already asking me and I can

just tell them which floor I want. The same for me applies to a 
restaurant

menu. I guess if I were by myself it would be one thing to use KNFB for
this instead of asking the waiter or waitress to read it, but usually
choosing a meal when I go out with friends or family becomes a
conversation anyways and I don't feel that anybody thinks I am not
independent just because they are reading this information for me.


Regards,
Sieghard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Eden Kizer
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 1:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: reading menus with the KNFB reader - Re: how are people
liking KNFB reader?


We have fought for the freedom to be able to read our own menus, and I 
can

easily skim my fingers down my braile display advancing very quickly to
where I want whereas sighted people often tell me the things they think
look good, and allaccess is great, but sometimes, the restaurants don't
have the correct menu listed.

I don't have KNFB reader yet, but I sure can't wait to show off my

independence, and my family will be proud when I can read my own menu 
with

them.

eden
On 12/5/2014 11:46 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
In my opinion, using the KNFB reader for one of it's intended purposes is
not showing off, any more than using your iPhone to make a phone call.
You are not proclaiming to the entire restaurant, or to those at your
table, that you can do this, and isn't it mind blowing?  Hey, look what I
can do, folks?  Isn't that cool??  You are, in actuality, being more
independent.

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----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Baracco
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?

When I dine, I am usually with others, and I don't like the idea of
holding everyone else up just to show off. I would prefer a Braille menu,

or better yet, an online menu that I can take my time perusing before i 
go

to the restaurant. I also like iPhone apps like All Access Menus.

Andy

From: SSEric
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 2:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how are people liking KNFB reader?
Besides those who don't mind making a spectacle of themselves or mind
putting of meals for themselves and their company, is it really practical
to use the KNFB Reader for restaurant menus? I am wondering about the
speed and accuracy of scanning menus, which can vary widely in format and
quality.

Thanks!

Eric



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 3:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how are people liking KNFB reader?

I love the KNFB reader. I use it primarily for reading short paper

documents like business letters, etc.. I use it on an iPhone 5 running 
iOS

7.1.2 and am amazed at how quick and accurate it is.


Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:06 PM, "Paul Ferrara" <paul.ferr...@twc.com> wrote:

All, I have reward points and could redeem them for iTunes gift cards, 
and

if I did, I would get KNFB Reader--but I'd like to know if folks find

themselves using it a lot, in what situations, and what things have 
worked

well and what things have not?

Thank you.

Paul
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