hey..
i wonder if i could find info on the Cyberterm project anymore.
i guess it started way bck in 1993 with Michael Snoswel at U of Adelaide ( 
AUS ).
The later (commercial) versions of Cyberterm were proposed to involve fully 
programmable agents ( avatars ) to represent a user in the cyberspace.
hoping to get info on this.....
( if this interests to any1, i would like to discuss about some of the 
propositions made during the project like teh concept of a true real-time VR 
operating system )

Prashant Chopra
Graduate Research Assistant (Scientific Visualization)
VAIL, Engineering Research Center
MSU, MS 39759
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.cs.msstate.edu/~prashant/

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>From: "Jeff Sonstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Jeff Sonstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "that steve guy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Avatars - revisited
>Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 12:12:57 -0400
>
> > The dust has settled a bit
> > ... along with my thoughts.
>
>[cough cough]
>
> > A person should be able to take their own Avatar into any world
> > they choose.
>
>not a problem
>
> > This would imply that if you are wizard, citizen etc those powers
> > hold true everywhere because those rights are assigned via the Avatar.
>
>not true
>
>rights are associated with the *user*
>not the avatar which the user chooses for this session
>[or they may just keep
>  what they used in the last session
>  which is the default]
>
> > Problem is that the rights and functions of person vary not just by who
> > they are but where they are.
>
>so maybe user/WRL as "composite key" to find rights??
>def not avatar
>
> > You can say - just limit everyone, and offer powers & rights in return 
>for
> > good citizenship.  But this gets unwieldy in the long term.  Politics,
> > jealousy, arrogence are in play.  Rules change, get bent along with
> > people...Mistakes and misunderstandings are still made by "empowered"
> > people.
>
>yeeeeees
>and your point is...    <g>
>
>my point is
>that is how the "real world" works
>so why not?
>
> > [...] I can see the variety of issues in VR theatre, Gaming, Work -
> > each place individually ( or each event) could need differing levels of
> > interaction from the people inside.
>
>true
>rights tied to user-in-a-place
>[not to avatar]
>
> > PS I think everyone should have the right to boot folks out of a world.
>
>I disagree...
>perhaps "gag" them
>[so you don't get their chat-text]
>but not boot...
>I would like to reserve that for folks
>who have shown they can be trusted by the WRL owner
>to act in a responsible fashion
>
>can everyone kick anyone out of a performance space in RL??
>no
>you call security or the producer
>
> > Oh and about HTML -  The Town Square Library does open a new HTML
> > page, but for me alone. Other people in the world at the same time don't
>get a page
> > suddenly appearing ( Do they??? I guess I don't know for sure ).
>
>hmmmmm
>this might be problematical
>given the security model of
>an applet (like the VNet client)
>inside a web-browser context
>[can only open a socket back to the same machine
>  from which it was served]
>
>anyone see a way out of this problem??
>
>thanks for the discussion...
>most useful
>
>jeffs
>
>--
>Jeff Sonstein
>Assistant Professor
>Department of Information Technology
>Rochester Institute of Technology
>----------------------------------------
>                   http://ariadne.iz.net/
>              http://www.it.rit.edu/~jxs/
>   http://ariadne.iz.net/~jeffs/jeffs.asc
>----------------------------------------
>There are no bugs,
>there are just undocumented features
>




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