Hi Prashant,

I remember hearing something about that a while back.
I shall try to find out more and get back to you on this.

Best wishes,

         - Miriam


At 08:13 PM 20/07/2000 +0530, prashant chopra wrote:
>hey..
>i wonder if i could find info on the Cyberterm project anymore.
>i guess it started way bck in 1993 with Michael Snoswel at U of Adelaide ( 
>AUS ).
>The later (commercial) versions of Cyberterm were proposed to involve 
>fully programmable agents ( avatars ) to represent a user in the cyberspace.
>hoping to get info on this.....
>( if this interests to any1, i would like to discuss about some of the 
>propositions made during the project like teh concept of a true real-time 
>VR operating system )
>
>Prashant Chopra
>Graduate Research Assistant (Scientific Visualization)
>VAIL, Engineering Research Center
>MSU, MS 39759
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://www.cs.msstate.edu/~prashant/
>
>Ph# +1-662-320-9611 (Apt)
>    +1-662-325-8885 (Off)
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>
>>From: "Jeff Sonstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "Jeff Sonstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "that steve guy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: RE: Avatars - revisited
>>Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 12:12:57 -0400
>>
>> > The dust has settled a bit
>> > ... along with my thoughts.
>>
>>[cough cough]
>>
>> > A person should be able to take their own Avatar into any world
>> > they choose.
>>
>>not a problem
>>
>> > This would imply that if you are wizard, citizen etc those powers
>> > hold true everywhere because those rights are assigned via the Avatar.
>>
>>not true
>>
>>rights are associated with the *user*
>>not the avatar which the user chooses for this session
>>[or they may just keep
>>  what they used in the last session
>>  which is the default]
>>
>> > Problem is that the rights and functions of person vary not just by who
>> > they are but where they are.
>>
>>so maybe user/WRL as "composite key" to find rights??
>>def not avatar
>>
>> > You can say - just limit everyone, and offer powers & rights in return for
>> > good citizenship.  But this gets unwieldy in the long term.  Politics,
>> > jealousy, arrogence are in play.  Rules change, get bent along with
>> > people...Mistakes and misunderstandings are still made by "empowered"
>> > people.
>>
>>yeeeeees
>>and your point is...    <g>
>>
>>my point is
>>that is how the "real world" works
>>so why not?
>>
>> > [...] I can see the variety of issues in VR theatre, Gaming, Work -
>> > each place individually ( or each event) could need differing levels of
>> > interaction from the people inside.
>>
>>true
>>rights tied to user-in-a-place
>>[not to avatar]
>>
>> > PS I think everyone should have the right to boot folks out of a world.
>>
>>I disagree...
>>perhaps "gag" them
>>[so you don't get their chat-text]
>>but not boot...
>>I would like to reserve that for folks
>>who have shown they can be trusted by the WRL owner
>>to act in a responsible fashion
>>
>>can everyone kick anyone out of a performance space in RL??
>>no
>>you call security or the producer
>>
>> > Oh and about HTML -  The Town Square Library does open a new HTML
>> > page, but for me alone. Other people in the world at the same time don't
>>get a page
>> > suddenly appearing ( Do they??? I guess I don't know for sure ).
>>
>>hmmmmm
>>this might be problematical
>>given the security model of
>>an applet (like the VNet client)
>>inside a web-browser context
>>[can only open a socket back to the same machine
>>  from which it was served]
>>
>>anyone see a way out of this problem??
>>
>>thanks for the discussion...
>>most useful
>>
>>jeffs
>>
>>--
>>Jeff Sonstein
>>Assistant Professor
>>Department of Information Technology
>>Rochester Institute of Technology
>>----------------------------------------
>>                   http://ariadne.iz.net/
>>              http://www.it.rit.edu/~jxs/
>>   http://ariadne.iz.net/~jeffs/jeffs.asc
>>----------------------------------------
>>There are no bugs,
>>there are just undocumented features
>
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