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I have seen major providers drop 15% of stop packets and 30% to 60% of
interm packets with dedicated links to the providers for radius auth
only.  Don't try and tell me that this is an internet problem.
Wholesale ISP want you to have your users using their accounts multiple
times.  It drives up the average time online when this happens. 

Erik L. M. Tijburg
Sr. Engineer
RedMoon Inc.
ISP Support Services
 
6810 Main Street
Frisco TX. 75034
(972) 731-0696 Ext 604
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Eric Dean
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [VOP RADIUS] Ghost login timeouts


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Who's to day it's their problem?  What if your radius server is
unavailable? What if your ISP that your radius server sits off of is
having problems routing?  This is the Internet and is inherently
unreliable.  Even 99.999% means you'll drop 1 packet in 100,000.  That's
at least one per week..if not a few per day.  NASs get rebooted,
networks fail, proxies have bugs...many things happen.  Say whatever you
want to the providers but expect it to continue.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Erik Tijburg
> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 7:30 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [VOP RADIUS] Ghost login timeouts
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>
> * This is the VOP Radius mailing list *
> I have seen all the Major Wholesellers make these kinds of claims. 
> UUNet, Sprint, Qwest, MegaPath, etc.  My response to these providers 
> is that if you can't provide me with all accounting packets then you 
> are not providing a complete wholesale dialup solution.
>
>
>
> Erik L. M. Tijburg
> Sr. Engineer
> RedMoon Inc.
> ISP Support Services
>
> 6810 Main Street
> Frisco TX. 75034
> (972) 731-0696 Ext 604
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Ron Fitzgerald
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 8:41 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [VOP RADIUS] Ghost login timeouts
>
>
> * This is the VOP Radius mailing list *
>
> The only problem with increasing the port limit is no prevention of 
> multi-logins. Although these suggestions have been very useful I'm 
> sure to Matt, They are only fixing the symptoms not the problem.
>
> Matt, I personally would not accept an answer like "...this is the 
> internet, people lose packets all the time" I would tell them to go f 
> themselves. If that response comes from any provider, it is very 
> telling that they think they have you buy the twig and berries and 
> could care less about you as a customer. That very well may have been 
> from a rookie radius tech, so maybe you need to talk to someone else 
> higher on the chain and see what their advice is. I am sure we have 
> all dealt with ghosting, but it seems as though not as bad as you. So 
> that leads me to believe that there may be a bigger problem with loss.
>
>  Maybe you should look for alternate sources of access, almost bet 
> with near/identical numbers. I recognize some names hear that may be 
> able to provide you with that service, not me but someone reading 
> this.
>
> Ron Fitzgerald
> Jadeview.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:28 PM
> Subject: [VOP RADIUS] Ghost login timeouts
>
>
> >
> > * This is the VOP Radius mailing list *
> > increase the port-limit on the user...or set it to zero
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Blue
> > > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 8:52 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [VOP RADIUS] Ghost login timeouts
> > >
> > >
> > > * This is the VOP Radius mailing list *
> > >
> > > MGSSA> Is there any way to remove "ghost" logins from the User
> > > table after a
> > > MGSSA> certain period of time without having SNMP access to the
> > > modem bank? I'm
> > > MGSSA> having a real problem with the VOPRadius thinking some of
> > > our roaming
> > > MGSSA> users are still online after they log off and not letting
> > > them on again.
> > > MGSSA> Our roaming provider's answer was to up the number of
> > > logins the users
> > > MGSSA> get but all that gets us is 5 ghosts in the system rather
> > > than 1 since
> > > MGSSA> they don't ever go away. Is there any way I can remove them

> > > MGSSA> automatically after 24 hours or something?
> > >
> > > Matt,
> > >
> > > This has been a historical problem.  If you are not getting the 
> > > stop
>
> > > accounting packet .. instant ghost.
> > >
> > > I belive that the solution involves getting interim 'watchdog' 
> > > packets instead of just expecting the one stop acct packet.  I 
> > > have never had to deal with this so I'm sorry I cannot help you 
> > > more than
>
> > > point you in the right direction.
> > >
> > > Have you surfed Vircoms radius support website?  Or perhaps 
> > > someone else on the list that *has* dealt with this will pipe up 
> > > .. :)
> > >
> > > John Blue
> > >
> > >
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