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15-30% is a far cry from a few per day or per week.  Yes, you then have a
problem.  I was addressing the issue of lesser magnitude...which you wil
never see fixed.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Erik Tijburg
> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:18 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [VOP RADIUS] Ghost login timeouts
>
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> I have seen major providers drop 15% of stop packets and 30% to 60% of
> interm packets with dedicated links to the providers for radius auth
> only.  Don't try and tell me that this is an internet problem.
> Wholesale ISP want you to have your users using their accounts multiple
> times.  It drives up the average time online when this happens.
>
> Erik L. M. Tijburg
> Sr. Engineer
> RedMoon Inc.
> ISP Support Services
>
> 6810 Main Street
> Frisco TX. 75034
> (972) 731-0696 Ext 604
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Eric Dean
> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:03 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [VOP RADIUS] Ghost login timeouts
>
>
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> Who's to day it's their problem?  What if your radius server is
> unavailable? What if your ISP that your radius server sits off of is
> having problems routing?  This is the Internet and is inherently
> unreliable.  Even 99.999% means you'll drop 1 packet in 100,000.  That's
> at least one per week..if not a few per day.  NASs get rebooted,
> networks fail, proxies have bugs...many things happen.  Say whatever you
> want to the providers but expect it to continue.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Erik Tijburg
> > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 7:30 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [VOP RADIUS] Ghost login timeouts
> >
> >
> > * This is the VOP Radius mailing list *
> > I have seen all the Major Wholesellers make these kinds of claims.
> > UUNet, Sprint, Qwest, MegaPath, etc.  My response to these providers
> > is that if you can't provide me with all accounting packets then you
> > are not providing a complete wholesale dialup solution.
> >
> >
> >
> > Erik L. M. Tijburg
> > Sr. Engineer
> > RedMoon Inc.
> > ISP Support Services
> >
> > 6810 Main Street
> > Frisco TX. 75034
> > (972) 731-0696 Ext 604
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Ron Fitzgerald
> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 8:41 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [VOP RADIUS] Ghost login timeouts
> >
> >
> > * This is the VOP Radius mailing list *
> >
> > The only problem with increasing the port limit is no prevention of
> > multi-logins. Although these suggestions have been very useful I'm
> > sure to Matt, They are only fixing the symptoms not the problem.
> >
> > Matt, I personally would not accept an answer like "...this is the
> > internet, people lose packets all the time" I would tell them to go f
> > themselves. If that response comes from any provider, it is very
> > telling that they think they have you buy the twig and berries and
> > could care less about you as a customer. That very well may have been
> > from a rookie radius tech, so maybe you need to talk to someone else
> > higher on the chain and see what their advice is. I am sure we have
> > all dealt with ghosting, but it seems as though not as bad as you. So
> > that leads me to believe that there may be a bigger problem with loss.
> >
> >  Maybe you should look for alternate sources of access, almost bet
> > with near/identical numbers. I recognize some names hear that may be
> > able to provide you with that service, not me but someone reading
> > this.
> >
> > Ron Fitzgerald
> > Jadeview.com
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Eric Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:28 PM
> > Subject: [VOP RADIUS] Ghost login timeouts
> >
> >
> > >
> > > * This is the VOP Radius mailing list *
> > > increase the port-limit on the user...or set it to zero
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Blue
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 8:52 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: [VOP RADIUS] Ghost login timeouts
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > * This is the VOP Radius mailing list *
> > > >
> > > > MGSSA> Is there any way to remove "ghost" logins from the User
> > > > table after a
> > > > MGSSA> certain period of time without having SNMP access to the
> > > > modem bank? I'm
> > > > MGSSA> having a real problem with the VOPRadius thinking some of
> > > > our roaming
> > > > MGSSA> users are still online after they log off and not letting
> > > > them on again.
> > > > MGSSA> Our roaming provider's answer was to up the number of
> > > > logins the users
> > > > MGSSA> get but all that gets us is 5 ghosts in the system rather
> > > > than 1 since
> > > > MGSSA> they don't ever go away. Is there any way I can remove them
>
> > > > MGSSA> automatically after 24 hours or something?
> > > >
> > > > Matt,
> > > >
> > > > This has been a historical problem.  If you are not getting the
> > > > stop
> >
> > > > accounting packet .. instant ghost.
> > > >
> > > > I belive that the solution involves getting interim 'watchdog'
> > > > packets instead of just expecting the one stop acct packet.  I
> > > > have never had to deal with this so I'm sorry I cannot help you
> > > > more than
> >
> > > > point you in the right direction.
> > > >
> > > > Have you surfed Vircoms radius support website?  Or perhaps
> > > > someone else on the list that *has* dealt with this will pipe up
> > > > .. :)
> > > >
> > > > John Blue
> > > >
> > > >
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