The reason I suggested crypto, likely much as the guy in the video did is because of the ability to do this without the government being onboard.
Of course I suppose it would still be possible to do this with a cash currency, but that would be ignoring the obvious advantages that exist with modern technology. I pretty much outlined a way it could possibly be done today by a group of inspired people. John On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote: > John Berry <berry.joh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > There is enough for everyone, but there is not YET enough for everyone to >> do nothing and have plenty. >> > > Yes, but there will be soon. In a few generations there will be. We are in > a transition. We need to gradually reinvent society and economics to > accommodate unlimited wealth. > > > >> And some things are getting worse not better, GM crops are killing the >> soil, and pollution is making some even otherwise remote locations unable >> to produce food. There are water shortages developing and we are destroying >> the environment to the extent there is projected to be nothing in the ocean >> before too long . . . >> > > These are technical problems with little or no connection to wealth and > poverty, or economics. GM crops may be killing the soil as you say. The > solution is to stop growing plants in soil. All crops should be grown > indoors in food factories. This takes up much less space and uses far less > resources and energy. The food is much safer, tastier, and it needs no > pesticides. > > Meat should be grown *in vitro* so that no animals need to suffer. This > takes far less energy, resources and space, and the meat will be healthier > for you, the carnivore. > > Water shortages should be eliminated by conserving and recycling water, > and by desalination. The city of Los Angeles has made great progress in > this. It now uses less water than it did in 1970 even though the population > is larger. See: > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/07/opinion/sunday/los-angeles-city-of-water.html > > > >> Bees are being killed by insecticides, while food futures are being gamed >> leaving people starving. >> > > As I said, this is unnecessary. It is not an economic problem so much as > ignorance and stupidity. It is caused by obsolete technology. > > I admit I see most things is a technical problem. "To the man who has only > a hammer all problems look like a nail." Perhaps this is not so much my > problem as other people's problem. I think most people do not understand > much about technology so they tend to look at technical problems and assume > these are economic or moral problems. People see crops eroding the land, > polluting, and pesticides destroying wild bees, and they say "this is a > moral problem." I agree it is a moral problem, but I look at the > Netherlands and say: "Why can we do things the way they do? They are making > tons of money. They are not polluting anything. If they keep building food > factories and exporting food factory technology to Japan, Korea and other > nations, they will eventually produce enough food to feed every person on > earth at a much lower cost than we do today, and they will make tremendous > profits doing that. So why don't we hop on that bandwagon?" By "eventually" > I mean in 30 years. Why should we let them walk away with one of the > largest and most profitable industries in the U.S. (agriculture)? > > > >> Making a basic income a right might reduce much of the meanness and the >> screwing things over to get ahead mentality. >> > > I hope it would, but in any case the problems you listed can be fixed by > other means with today's capitalistic system. > > > One interesting thing no one has mentioned is that all that is needed is >> for the payment to indeed occur through a crypto currency! >> > > I see no connection. Why not just use ordinary money? > > - Jed > >