It may be that the hydrogen only acts to help distribute the Li-7 to the Ni 
isotopes for the Li-7+Ni reactions Jones suggested back in October and Eric has 
just reviewed.   

There has been talk of the idea that Li-H vaporizes at about 900 degrees within 
the reactor chamber.   It would condense in the cooler cracks  and help seal 
the chamber if that is necessary.  In any case H may not be involved in the 
reaction and its exfiltration is not a problem.  Only the loss of Li would be a 
problem,  since it would be the necessary reactant with Ni in the Rossi device 
tested at Lugano.   As far as I know an accounting of H in the Lugano report 
was not accomplished. 

I also think there likely is a mechanism for distribution of heat energy within 
the reactor chamber to keep things from melting or sintering.  This would most 
likely be accomplished by a heat transfer gas of some sort.  It may be Li-H 
vapor, Li vapor or some other gas evolved from the fuel and/or the body of the 
reactor chamber as the device heats up.    If the mechanism were EM, it would 
have to be a fairly local emission/absorption  reaction, otherwise it would not 
be effective in distributing the heat and maintaining a constant temperature.  

Of course this assumption would not be correct, if most of the LENR energy  is 
EM and escapes the local reaction site to be absorbed in the body of the 
alumina.   In that case the self sustaining mode would depend upon the 
conduction of heat from the alumina to the cooler internal reactor chamber to 
keep the reaction going.   Controlling the reaction would be a matter of 
keeping it hot given the cooling (loss of energy) from the reaction location--a 
nice problem to have when it comes to dynamics and control-- in that it would 
constitute a negative temperature coeff.   But assuming the LENR happens in a 
fixed temperature range and stops if it gets too hot, there is a built in 
negative temperature coeff. which also seems to me  to be a necessary feature 
of the reactor.   

The ideas hinge on the idea that resonances of some sort are necessary to get 
the reaction to occur.  There may be an effective resonant absorption cross 
section for LI-7 and the various Ni isotope reactions to facilitate the LENR 
reaction---phonic resonances with the nano particles of Ni fuel, EM resonances 
for photon absorption and emission, nuclear magnetic resonances etc., and/or 
some combination of these parameters.  I would guess understanding these 
resonant details, a complex problem, will be required to get a firm handle on 
the science of any specific LENR system.   

Engineering which includes a lot of trial and error is probably the most 
practical way to get a working device.  I think this is what Rossi has been 
doing over the years he has been working on his reactor.   Most advances in 
technology are based on a mixture of trial and error work and application of 
half-baked theory.  They go hand in hand.   Rossi's half baked theory turned 
out pretty good.    

Mills I think also took this approach, but may have had a too--narrow 
perspective (a bias) of possible reactions and resonances considering his 
theory.   His has been and is a worthy endeavor, however. 

Bob  Cook
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Axil Axil 
  To: vortex-l 
  Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 7:23 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Sealing the Dog Bone


  http://luratia.com/graphene/graphene-is-impermeable

  Graphene is impermeable to all gases including hydrogen but it will let water 
through like it was not even there,

  http://phys.org/news/2012-01-graphene-supermaterial-superpermeable.html

  I segest a surface coating of nano Graphene produced by an application of 
nano powdered Graphene on the inside surface of the Alumina tube to keep the 
hydrogen in.

  The GO membrain

  http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1112/1112.3488.pdf

  I believe this use of Nano Graphene to make the inside surface of the alumina 
impermeable to gas exfiltration was the reason why large amounts of carbon was 
found in the fuel load of Rossi's Hot Cat.



  On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 2:58 AM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:

    Let us not underestimate Rossi.

    The account of how Rossi loaded the fuel into the alumina tubes told by the 
TPR2 report does not sound like Rossi when through a complicated time consuming 
and/or involved alumina sealing process to protect against hydrogen leakage.

    An excerpt from the Lugano report:

    "A thermocouple probe, inserted into one of the caps, allows the control 
system to manage power supply to the resistors by measuring the internal 
temperature of the reactor. The hole for the thermocouple probe is also the 
only access point for the fuel charge. The thermocouple probe cable is inserted 
in an alumina cement cylinder, which acts as a bushing and perfectly fits the 
hole, about 4 mm in diameter. When charging the reactor, the bushing is pulled 
out, and the charge is inserted. After the thermocouple probe has been lodged 
back in place, the bushing is sealed and secured with alumina cement. To 
extract the charge, pliers are used to open the seal."

    These recent tests by MFMP indicate that sealing alumina from hydrogen 
leakage is a challenge. But the Rossi Hot Cat did run for weeks without 
apparent loss of hydrogen. Rossi has come up with a way to effectively seal 
alumina.

    How could have Rossi made the alumina tube resistant to hydrogen leakage?

    Could Rossi have used a self sealing additive included in the fuel mix that 
entered the pores of the alumina after the reactor was started to minimize 
hydrogen exfiltration?

    There was a large amount of carbon in the element analysis of the fuel 
load. Could it be that Rossi used a organic sealant to stop hydrogen leakage?

    An excerpt from the Lugano report:

    "Besides the analyzed elements it has been found that the fuel also 
contains rather high concentrations of C, Ca, Cl, Fe, Mg, Mn and these are not 
found in the ash."

    Where did all those rather high concentrations of elements go? Could it be 
that the C, Ca, Cl, Fe, Mg, and Mn were nano particles used to seal the fuel 
including hydrogen by blocking the pores of the alumina in a self anodizing 
process in the initial stages during of reactor startup? Carbon is a well know 
hydrogen blocker.


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