In reply to  Roarty, Francis X's message of Tue, 7 Jul 2015 00:19:39 +0000:
Hi,
[snip]
>
>I agree.. closed form being a canoe stuck in the waterfall of our 3D plane all 
>the rest is the medium of time passing thru it.

Not exactly what I had in mind. :) What I meant by "closed form" was a geometric
closed form, like a circle, a sphere, a toroid etc. (or some combination of
these).

>Fran
>
>IMO, all energy is motion in the substance of the vacuum. When that motion
>occurs in a closed form, the result is a particle. This was also Fred Sparber's
>point of view if a IIRC. I think he was right.
>[snip]
>Regards,
>
>Robin van Spaandonk
>
>http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

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