In the Lugano test, the 100 micro nickel particle swapped either 1, 2, 3 or
4 neutrons from lithium 7 to get to pure Ni62 from Ni58, Ni60 and Ni61 and
this swap happened to all billion atoms of the that particle in one shot.
This is what this latest theory cannot explain. This is called cluster
transformation.

On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 4:56 AM, Alain Sepeda <[email protected]>
wrote:

> as far as I understand, low energy neutrons will be a hazard because of
> the transmutations they cause, if the target is not controlled and safe...
> a neutron in iron, oxygen, carbon, may produce something radioactive, or
> just structural damage...
>
> anyway as I've heard from Svein O , the paper propose that the neutrons
> are swapped between two nucleus after a period of entanglement, with higher
> probability for a swap that produce energy.
>
> No neutron can exit because it would not be energy effective...
>
> in a way this match well the idea of Ed Storms about what have to happen
> inside his NAE, the hydroton : a quantum object emerge with the
> entanglement of many atoms, and when the entanglement is broken, there is
> some probability that a state of lower energy is occupied.
>
> anyway I feel that we are a bit too enthusiastic on that theory proposal,
> as all enthusiasm before have been cooled, at least a little.
>
>
>
> 2015-10-15 21:39 GMT+02:00 John Berry <[email protected]>:
>
>> Excuse my relative ignorance of nuclear physics (not my bag, baby), but
>> if a Neutron is ejected by conventional means, it will exit with enough
>> energy to pose a hazard in the ways mentioned previously.
>>
>> But being that Neutrons are not charged, if they are induced to be
>> ejected with comparatively low energy (slow neutron radiation), could the
>> hazards of radioactive isotopes and neutron radiation be mitigated?
>>
>> Of course if they are ejected with very low energy, I'm not sure how that
>> helps excess energy show up.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 7:33 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I posted a ref from physorg on Tue 10/6/2015 4:10 PM…
>>>
>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg104970.html
>>>
>>> It involves a new observation about resonance which might tie in with
>>> the Swede’s paper...
>>>
>>> -mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Jones Beene [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2015 9:47 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* RE: [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation
>>> break-through
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> FWIW: Before pinning a medal on these guys, I want to present a contrary
>>> opinion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There is no scoop here. Unless it is BS which is being scooped.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The theory looks a lot like a mashup of W-L cold neutrons and
>>> Hagelstein’s neutron hopping, neither of which have a shread of physical
>>> evidence. The do not show neutron activation which needs to be shown for
>>> any such theory to work. They accept the flawed Lugano report as accurate
>>> and apparently do not have an accurate understanding of nuclear spallation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In short – this looks like a rather poor effort to me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Bob Cook
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It looks to me like Mats scooped all the other news outlets.  Good work
>>> Mats.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The paper is quite good and understandable.  Neutron spallation and slow
>>> neutron transmutation stimulated by a an electric field gradient (maybe
>>> across a surface) at a certain resonance.  Lots  of parameters that can be
>>> engineered.   Seems to fit Rossi’s conditions well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob Cook
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Mats Lewan <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2015 2:50 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> *Subject:* [Vo]:Swedish scientists claim LENR explanation break-through
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Essentially no new physics but a little-known physical effect describing
>>> matter’s interaction with electromagnetic fields — *ponderomotive
>>> Miller forces* — would explain energy release and isotopic changes in
>>> LENR. This is what Rickard Lundin and Hans Lidgren, two top level Swedish
>>> scientists, claim, describing their theory in a paper called *Nuclear
>>> Spallation and Neutron Capture Induced by Ponderomotive Wave Forcing* (full
>>> length paper here
>>> <http://documents.irf.se/get_document.php?group=Administration&docid=1772>)
>>> that will be presented on Friday, October 16, at the 11th International
>>> Workshop on Anomalies in Hydrogen Loaded Metals
>>> <http://workshop.wonderevents.fr/>, hosted by Airbus in Toulouse,
>>> France.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read more here:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://animpossibleinvention.com/2015/10/15/swedish-scientists-claim-lenr-explanation-break-through/
>>>
>>> Mats
>>>
>>> www.animpossibleinvention.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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