Good point about the delays, is there a good explanation for the different 
delays for the two sources 52ns for protium and 26 ns deuterium? Interesting 
that protium takes exactly twice as long and is half the mass. I appreciate the 
+/- kaon half life is about 12ns. 


> On 26 Oct 2015, at 15:13, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Holmlid says that the the reaction is delayed by 26ns for deuterium and 52 ns 
> for protium. This means that the reaction is produced by a decay product of 
> the K mesons. The 10 billion kaons are produced simultaneously. Positrons are 
> seen but no gamma. This is important. This means that the mechanism that 
> suppresses of thermalizes the gamma radiation exists AFTER the hydrogen 
> Rydberg matter is blasted apart. The Rydberg matter is not causative. 
> 
> This also means that more electrons are seen then positions like what 
> happened in the big bang in respect to CPT violation. Positrons were seen a 
> long distance away from the site of the reactions. This means that the gamma 
> thermalization extends outward meters from the site of the reaction.
> 
> How long does it take to reenergize this process? How long do we need to wait 
> before another laser shot produces similar results. Both Mills and Papp were 
> able to repeat their reaction is milliseconds. Can Holmlid do the same? Does 
> this reaction still need hydrogen Rydberg matter to exist after the first 
> laser shot? Holmlid said that it takes weeks to build up the Rydberg matter. 
> But both Mills and Papp got repeatable results in milliseconds. Does this 
> mean that the case of the reaction persists to thermalize radiation and 
> stabilize radioactive isotopes long after the Rydberg matter is gone?
> 
> We are at a stage in LENR where Niels Bohr was doing his exploration of the 
> structure of the atom. Holmlid needs to modify his experimental processes to 
> get as much info out of his experiment as he can.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Stephen Cooke <stephen_coo...@hotmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> Well if Kaons are present on the up side we always thought something strange 
>> was going on in this process😉.
>> 
>> Although energetically there is enough rest mass in Deuterium to produce a 
>> Kaon through some kind of low energy or collective trigger for the nucleons 
>> to trigger can it account for the formation of these quarks?
>> 
>> If it is not possible this way but on the other hand they are present it 
>> would indicate maybe that the right combination of quarks and anti quarks 
>> are produced to form all the mesons observed from high energy excitation in 
>> one place. 
>> 
>> This I think is consistent with your SPP analogue black hole Hadron 
>> evaporation idea? 
>> 
>> As an alternative approach to the analogue black hole idea, for a meson to 
>> form in a single bound place I suppose that meson combinations could be 
>> generated in a nucleus. If a nucleus somehow has enough extra energy to 
>> generate a quark neutral over all combination of mesons. I wonder if this 
>> also true if a nucleon or nucleon pair is destroyed in the process. As well 
>> as an energizing source (perhaps a laser, phonon resonance effect or 
>> magnetic stimulation from SPP), I suppose a nucleus of sufficient binding 
>> energy would be required. It seems Deuterium it self does not have any where 
>> near the binding energy to hold a pion let alone combinations of pions or 
>> kaons. So if a single nucleus is required to generate complete mesons this 
>> implies heavier nuclei are required at least of sufficient binding energy to 
>> hold a meson pair before being released from or quantum tunneling out of the 
>> nucleus. 
>> 
>> If we assume 8MeV binding energy per nucleon then perhaps we need a nucleus 
>> of atomic mass of 36 (heavier than Sulphur) to manifest +/- pion pairs for 
>> example.  For kaon pairs however, much heavier nuclei would be implicated. 
>> I'm not sure if these are present in the fuel but I suppose platinum would 
>> be heavy enough.
>> 
>> So perhaps as I think you have said in the past the UDD is providing a kind 
>> of magnetic resonance to other individual nuclei. If these are heavier 
>> nuclei perhaps they can be excited to a state where these meson pairs can be 
>> manifested.
>> 
>> If the accumulation of energy in the nucleus is slow perhaps the mesons 
>> would be ejected as soon as the are formed with minimal energy as soon they 
>> can tunnel out of the nucleus. I suppose - mesons would form pionic and 
>> kaonic atoms and maybe the + pion interact with a neutron to form a proton, 
>> otherwise they would decay following the chain mentioned by Holmlid. 
>> 
>> It might be still difficult to account for Kaons using the above approach if 
>> so we are left with:
>> 
>> Nucleon or nucleon pair disintegration,(perhaps in ultra dense material) 
>> then a trigger needs to be identified.
>> 
>> Nucleon annihilation followed by particle generation from the energy 
>> released.
>> 
>> Axils SSP black hole analogue and Hadron evaporation.
>> 
>> High energy nucleon impacts or fusion events. In which case we would expect 
>> more radiation if I understand correctly.
>> 
>>> On 26 Oct 2015, at 08:03, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>>> K−, negatively charged (containing a strange quark and an up antiquark) has 
>>> mass 493.667±0.013 MeV and mean lifetime (1.2384±0.0024)×10−8 s.
>>> K+ (antiparticle of above) positively charged (containing an up quark and a 
>>> strange antiquark) must (by CPT invariance) have mass and lifetime equal to 
>>> that of K−. 
>>> 
>>> The mass difference is 0.032±0.090 MeV, consistent with zero. The 
>>> difference in lifetime is (0.11±0.09)×10−8 s. What's weird is that two 
>>> different quarks types are produced out of nothing. You just don't find 
>>> strange quarks in ordinary matter. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:18 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> in physical cosmology, baryogenesis is the generic term for the 
>>>> hypothetical physical processes that produced an asymmetry(imbalance) 
>>>> between baryons and antibaryons produced in the very early universe. The 
>>>> baryonic matter that remains today, following the baryonic-antibaryonic 
>>>> matter annihilation, makes up the universe.
>>>> 
>>>> LENR could be responsible for the past and ongoing production of matter in 
>>>> the universe in violation of CPT and that negative matter (antibaryons) is 
>>>> being sent back in time. 
>>>> 
>>>> We see excess electrons pop into existence in LENR reactions. Could LENR 
>>>> be the GOD reaction? In point of fact, Holmlid is producing electrons from 
>>>> nothing in his experiment. Don't get excited, we are just talking here.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:53 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> CPT THEOREM C(harge) -P(arity=reflection) -T(ime reversal) INVARIANCE is 
>>>>> a property of any quantum field theory in Flat space times which 
>>>>> respects: (i) Locality, (ii) Unitarity and (iii) Lorentz Symmetry.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Holmlid is producing neutral K mesons. This particle demonstrates CP 
>>>>> violation,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The discovery of CP violation in 1964 in the decays of neutral kaons 
>>>>> resulted in the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1980 for its discoverers James 
>>>>> Croninand Val Fitch.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP_violation
>>>>> 
>>>>> Who can say why LENR produces neutral K mesons? 
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